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NHL Breaking News: Jets Forward Rypien Found Dead

Today is another sad day as the NHL lost another one of it's tough guys. Former Canucks tough guy Rick Rypien was found dead by a family member in his Alberta home. Rypien recently signed with the Winnipeg Jets this past summer.

In his three seasons with the Canucks, Rypien opted to take two leave of absences in his tenure. Off the ice, Rypien was faced with depression, which forced him to leave the Canucks last November for an extended amount of time.

Local Police Officers are saying that there is no suspicious activity involved with Rypiens death. Rypien is the second NHL tough guy to pass during this off-season. Our own Derek Boogaard passed away in May after officials found a mixture of alcohol and oxycodone in his system.

Our thoughts and prayers go out to Rick and his family.

Follow after the jump for the official release from the Winnipeg Jets.

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Statement regarding passing of Rick Rypien

True North Sports & Entertainment and the Winnipeg Jets Hockey Club would like to issue the following statement in regards to the passing of Rick Rypien:

"We are deeply saddened to confirm Rick’s passing. As many people are aware, he had strong ties to True North Sports & Entertainment, the Winnipeg Jets Hockey Club, the former Manitoba Moose Hockey Club and the Vancouver Canucks. We would like to express our sincere sympathies to the Rypien family as well as Rick’s friends. We also appreciate all of the support that has come pouring in from Rick’s fans. Rick was a talented player with an extremely bright future. His hunger for the game made him a valued team member both on and off the ice. This loss has impacted us as more than just a hockey team."

The organization will have no further comment at this time. We kindly ask the privacy of Rick’s family and friends be respected during this difficult period.

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Two enforcers in the span of what? Three months?

I have a bad feeling brewing about all of this…I’m speculating but maybe this should be a wake up call to the NHL about doing something to get fighting out of the game, yes the players know the risks, but its on the NHL to protect these guys both on and off the ice

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by Kevin Power on Aug 15, 2011 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Or its just two troubled individuals.

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by Plusch on Aug 15, 2011 10:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

who were both heavy fighters

yes they could be troubled…but there could also be a link to brain damage that could have lingering effects like this

"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx

In Prust We Trust

"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.

A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

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by Kevin Power on Aug 15, 2011 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

This has nothing to do with fighting...

Boogaard OD… and the there is no cause of death yet the only thing it said is depression (which has nothing to do with fighting) so if you’re going to assume something from nothing you might want to go more with pill mixture accident… Sorry to the families of Rypien and Boogaard

by Ranger McJersey on Aug 15, 2011 10:49 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

depression (which has nothing to do with fighting)

That is not true. Depression is one of the many post-concussion symptoms that people face. Also, depression, and psychosis, may be a side-effect to the drugs that people may take to treat post-concussion syndromes.

Obviously the facts have to come out, but still… it may, in fact, be related to his fighting.

by Hoggo on Aug 15, 2011 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Did not know that…

by Ranger McJersey on Aug 16, 2011 12:02 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yup

From the Mayo Clinic

In some cases, people experience behavior or emotional changes after a mild traumatic brain injury. Family members may notice that the person has become more irritable, suspicious, argumentative or stubborn.
Depression and anxiety
If you’re experiencing new or increasing depression or anxiety after a concussion, it may be helpful to discuss this with a psychologist or psychiatrist who has experience in working with people with brain injury. Medications to combat anxiety or depression also may be prescribed. The symptoms of post-concussion syndrome often improve after the affected person learns that there is a cause for his or her symptoms, and that they will likely improve with time. Education about the disorder can ease a person’s fears and help provide peace of mind.

by Hoggo on Aug 16, 2011 12:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

it has everything to do with fighting

Derek turned to pills and alcohol to deal with the anxiety and depression that comes with the concussion he suffered after a fight against the Senators. Speculation is that Rypien suffered from similar symptoms and took his own life and a logical link is concussions coming from a life of fighting. Its a similar pandemic that NFL is facing with its retired players who are suddenly passing away and the causes have all been linked back to concussions and concussion like symptoms

"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx

In Prust We Trust

"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.

A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

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by Kevin Power on Aug 15, 2011 11:31 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

I know he suffered from extreme light sensitivity and headaches. That certainly has to promote drug abuse and keep you cooped up depressed.

by Hunter Ivey on Aug 16, 2011 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

well...

just a quick one…cuz i gotta run…
but considering this a valid point and all…but how often do we hear about boxers and MMA fighters (or anyone who literally fights for a living, more so than any hockey player) just up and dying at 27-28.

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by Master Ov Brutality on Aug 16, 2011 8:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Thank you you’re probably not going to see this because its too late but if any of you do hoggo said it can cause depression but powers is automatically assuming that is the case in these 2… A) other things cause depression B) The other player that sticks out for dying during his career is konstintinov (I don’t think I spelled that right) and he died because his limo driver got drunk when he won the cup. Town I did not read you’re post yet but you are right fighting is dangerous but so is slashing a guy in the face like Simon so yes I am all for Orr getting on the ice next time they play the intention to beat s#!+ out of him

by Ranger McJersey on Aug 16, 2011 4:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Fighting is dangerous?!

Never would have thought!!!!

Ha sorry for the sarcasm—always gut wrenching to hear this type of thing, but these guys are grown men—they understand their actions and reprocussions of what they do.

It’s really similar to prize fighting. I’m a huge mixed martial arts fan, and when people who don’t quite understand the sport say how savage and violent it is, labeling it “human cock fighting,” or something like that, I always tell them that these are adults who are willingly engaging in fighting—they understand that they can win large sums of money, or be gravely injured.

It’s the same for hockey—these guys know they must fight to stay in the league and earn a pay check. No one is forcing them to do this—they aren’t skilled enough to stay in the league by scoring points, so they have to fight. They can easily make a living another way, but they get a healthy paycheck to play hockey (a game they love). Again, no one is forcing this on them.

I hate how people say the sport needs to reform. Fighting has been going on in the sport forever, we don’t need to change it now. We don’t need to “help enforcers help themselves.” They are intelligent, complex individuals who know what they are getting into. There are troubled individuals in every sport, not just hockey.

I guess my “solution,” is not to change the game, but just make sure the guys involved have a better understanding of what they are getting into.

by Town on Aug 16, 2011 9:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Now I read it...

And thank you it is part of the that allows players who can’t defend themselves (unfortunately crosbitch is the only example off the top of my head) to play the game. So if you do like the game go watch soccer!

by Ranger McJersey on Aug 16, 2011 4:41 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Oh I forgot!

I’ve been in fights (which I did not start for the record) and im still typing…

by Ranger McJersey on Aug 16, 2011 4:43 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

i posted this news already….

by Eric Bure on Aug 15, 2011 10:17 PM EDT reply actions  

your point?

"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx

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"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.

A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

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by Kevin Power on Aug 15, 2011 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

He posted it over 20 minutes before you guys. He should at least get a stick-tap.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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by Moshe52792 on Aug 16, 2011 12:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I honestly didn’t even notice it on the side. I saw the news on twitter, opened up the Banter and wrote away. Most likely by that time he had posted his, there for why I didn’t see it.

by Bryan Winters on Aug 16, 2011 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I know.

Not saying anyone did anything wrong, you’re doing your job.

But you guys can always edit and make notes, etc.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Aug 16, 2011 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

does anyone find anything strange about Rick and Derek’s deaths?

Both had connections with the minnesota wild..

Boogaard- played there
Rypien- attacked minnesota fan.

weird coincidence

by danmarley21 on Aug 15, 2011 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Both were male, have r’s in there name, can skate, and were over 4’ tall.

Definitely a link there too.

by teknics on Aug 15, 2011 10:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

dont forget

they were also canadian

"Don't look now, but there's one too many people in this room and I think it's you." Groucho Marx

In Prust We Trust

"Kovalev would work with Tortorella like a kitty would work in a microwave.

A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

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by Kevin Power on Aug 15, 2011 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

um…..

They connections, if any, would be that they were both tough guys that suffered from depression potentially due to brain concussions.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Aug 16, 2011 12:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

What other type on concussions are there?

by Seth Warshaw on Aug 16, 2011 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

LMAO!!

I was typing brain damage, and changed it to concussions.

What a fail.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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by Moshe52792 on Aug 16, 2011 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions  

Gonna take a while for me to get used to this

At first I thought NY Jets, but then I said wait it’s a hockey blog, and then saw Rypien so I knew. Winnipeg Jets is again something a bit before my time, but hey i’ll have to get used to it.

Yeah I'm hopeful for Richards and Gaborik to work out... I mean how many FA signings does it take to hit the jackpot?

Yes that's Richards hoisting the cup in the picture. I'm hoping 9 years from now I won't have to photoshop that picture.

by RichieToGabbySCORE on Aug 15, 2011 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Condolences to his family and friends.

Another hockey player gone too soon.

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by The Blue Seats on Aug 15, 2011 10:56 PM EDT reply actions  

RIP Rick.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Aug 16, 2011 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

At first I thought Crosby was being a little bitch but now I guess these concussions are not to be taken lightly . I hate Crosby but no one deserves to go this way and everyone who has a concussion in the league should step back and evaluate what’s going on with themselves and take as much time as they need. I love the energy from the fighting but sometimes you can tell guys don’t want to fight but do it just for crowd pleasing. I guess is it really worth it they should ask themselves and I’m not against fighting I just wish there was no repercussions with this fast paced sport and everyone always stayed healthy.

by XxC17xX on Aug 16, 2011 1:18 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

+1

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Aug 16, 2011 1:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agree, but Crosby didn’t get his concussion fighting, he got it from a dirty hit by David Steckel.

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by Joe1969 on Aug 16, 2011 3:41 AM EDT up reply actions  

Yes I know. I’m just using him as an example of a player with that type of injury who should take his time recovering. As much as I dislike him I don’t want to see him end up like these guys.

by XxC17xX on Aug 16, 2011 9:41 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Gotcha, I should have read your comment more slowly, you made that clear.

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by Joe1969 on Aug 16, 2011 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wait...

Dirty hit or collision? Crosby turned right as Steckel was skating by him, the hit was totally incidental and then him getting checked into the boards from behind by Hedman in the next game sure didn’t help out.

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by Tripodi on Aug 16, 2011 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Do you think Carkner carries guilt about Boogie?

It was his devastating punch that took Boogie off the rink and started him on path to self destruction. While Boogie made a number of personal decisions after the incident that contributed/caused his own death, as a human being I think it would be difficult for Carkner to disassociate the two events.

BTW- Want to make it clear that I don’t think Carkner should feel any responsibility or guilt over what went down, just curious about what he carries away from it day to day.

by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Aug 16, 2011 6:56 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Its possible.

I hope for his sake that he doesn’t, because it wasn’t his fault.

But it is definitely possible and understandable for him to feel guilt

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Aug 16, 2011 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just terrible. RIP Rick. Time for the league to get serious about blows to the head and these types of players that need to fight just to stay in the league. Obviously some of them have all sorts of inner issues to deal with. Bettman needs to take his head from out of his arse and start caring about his players. I hate Cindy but if he cannot play due to concussions then that is tragic as is Marc Savard’s situation. I’ve said it for years, there needs to be a no-tolerance rule on blows to the head (and don’t think these fighters don’t have effects leading to depression) whether it is intentional or not. Automatic 5 minute shorthanded penalty, game misconduct, and review for suspension on the first offense. Same for second offense except the suspension review is replaced by an automatic 10 game suspension. Third offense? 25 games and a team fine of $100K. Think they’ll get the message? I think so. BTW, I am not in favor of banning fights but maybe they need to make the penalty during the games more severe. I don’t have an answer for fighting.

by Richter1994 on Aug 16, 2011 7:15 AM EDT reply actions  

these guys willingly fight and get paid to do so

I’m against cheap shot artists, but these fighters know the reprocussions of their actions.

In my post above, i likened it a bit to prize fighting.

by Town on Aug 16, 2011 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe they don’t know the repercussions. I’m sure they understand concussions and heavy headaches are part of the deal. But depression and suicidal thoughts might not be part of their understanding of the consequences.
And just to respond to a part of your post above, yes fighting has been around forever, but saying we don’t need to change it now is a little naive. In the 50s & 60s, players were no where near the size guys are now and the speed of the game wasn’t close to today’s game. The protective gear players wear now is directly because of those facts. The rule changes on blind side hits and head shots is directly because of those facts. To say that fighting should exist in a vacuum over time while the rest of the game evolves does a big disservice to the players.

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by Broheem NJ on Aug 16, 2011 9:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'm totally with you on equiptment/rule changes

to protect guys during normal play—this protects players who have their head down or against cheap shots—-but it takes two to tango—you don’t have to fight.

by Town on Aug 16, 2011 11:04 AM EDT up reply actions  

ever have a concussion? I have and it NEVER goes away or gets “cured.” which would explain some of my posts but that’s another story, lol.

by Richter1994 on Aug 16, 2011 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

I have from college football

and I understood that was a major risk when I suited up every saturday—Obviously there are different idealogies on the subject that simply differ—I get where you’re coming from and I can dig it, I just happen to disagree.

by Town on Aug 16, 2011 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

I’m sorry it happened to you. I hope you have not felt the after-effects. I still say a zero tolerance rule for blows to the head are necessary. so any contact with shoulder, elbow, stick, etc., intentional or not, would be penalized.

by Richter1994 on Aug 16, 2011 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks

It’s been over a year with no effects, but I understand that there may be some for me down the road.

I totally agree with zero tolerance on head hits and cheapshots to unwilling victims—I just think in a fight both are willing participants, so they should understand and accept the risks involved.

by Town on Aug 16, 2011 12:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

When I was 13 the pedal on my bike fell off as I was standing and pedaling pretty fast. I hit my head on the curb. I was in the hospital for a few days and originally they thought I would need surgery. A year later I went out for freshman football (against my parents wishes) and I got leveled playing QB causing another concussion as I whiplashed, the back of my head hit the frozen ground. To this day I get “twinges” that I am sure relates to what I just described. Granted the first incident was not sports related but a blow to the head is a blow to the head.

by Richter1994 on Aug 16, 2011 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once again agree...

I got a couple from hockey… and yes fighting is dangerous no one is disagreeing with that and if someone doesn’t want to fight and is forced to the end up getting KNOCKED but somebody else and I love that part of the game… and I hate Scott stevens (only because he was a devil) but he shoulder to headed so many people this day in hockey only 10 – 15 years later he would only be known as a goon we are reforming and protecting the players better we do NOT need to eliminate fighting!

by Ranger McJersey on Aug 16, 2011 5:01 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

+1. To extrapolate that fighting needs to be eliminated because two " fighters " pass away under differing circumstances does not make sense to me. IMO, fighting is a part of the game that should never be taken completely away. Do I watch hockey for fights, absolutely not. I think that by allowing the occasional fight, it keeps certain players in line. Most concussions happen because of checks, not fighting.

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by nathansfamous on Aug 17, 2011 4:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

Probably most serious concussions happen because of checks. But you can’t discount the cumulative effects of infrequent checks and punches to the head, as well as simply falling and hitting one’s head on the ice, over the course of a career.

Fighting is the one thing that I mentioned above that isn’t inherent in how the game is played.

by Hoggo on Aug 17, 2011 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

Its just a tough spot for the league I think. Fans want fighting, players want fighting, no one wants the consequences to the fighters.

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by Broheem NJ on Aug 16, 2011 11:43 AM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

seeing a young life snuffed out as apossible consequence of fighting is an insanely tough pill to swallow—but its something the fans and some players enjoy. Guys do it willingly knowing its a way to make a lot more money than they probably would in any other field.

I think the league should do a better job of making the consequences clear to the fighters—using Boogaard and Rypien as examples. Hopefully their deaths can be used to educate and deter some guys who think they want to fight from unwillingly doing Irreparable damage to themselves.

by Town on Aug 16, 2011 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

clear that up

some players and fans enjoy fighting, not the deaths obviously—that sounded bad

by Town on Aug 16, 2011 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

Rest In Peace, Rick Rypien

This tells me that the NHL like the NFL will have to look deeper into concussions and after-affects. I don’t know if people really understand what prices many pay for head injuries, both in the short and long term. I would think though, that with a new CBA in the works, this will be something that may upend hopeful labor peace. Concussions are very touchy, and may make for a painful negotiations.

But I hope that “serious-minded” people going forward will look deeper to see that depression and other affects do take place in the “shattered” mind.

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by Danz10 on Aug 16, 2011 9:06 AM EDT reply actions  

Concussions...

…are deeply, deeply difficult to cope with. Guys like Savard and Crosby are not just sitting around their houses, glad they don’t have to deal with off-season workouts.

Imagine waking up in the morning with the worst headache you’ve ever had. You want to vomit, and any light creates a searing pain in your eyes and head. You often stumble when you stand up because of vertigo (dizziness). Simple tasks are exhausting and you feel tired a lot. You also have wild mood swings and get frustrated easily. Now imagine trying to play hockey with all of this.

Concussions are EXTREMELY serious injuries and there’s no timetable for when they heal. They can heal up the next day or never.

Boogey and (possibly) Rypien had to deal with these symptoms day in and day out. I can’t even begin to imagine how much it sucked. I’m not suggesting that death is a feasible alternative, but they were probably not living happy, fulfilling lives with their concussions.

I hope that Savard, Crosby, Perron, and all the other guys that are dealing with concussion symptoms can heal up soon.

by lucas48 on Aug 16, 2011 11:36 AM EDT reply actions  

+1

Well said.

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by Danz10 on Aug 16, 2011 12:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well said bud.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Aug 16, 2011 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I thought Boogie was cleared by a DR? IMO, I think Derek was taking pain killers for longer than several months.

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by nathansfamous on Aug 17, 2011 3:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

RIP

Much too young to lose,

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by Dig Deep on Aug 16, 2011 12:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Don't forget Bob Probert

You can add him to the list of tough guys who had brain trauma issues. There are 2 separate issues under this concussion umbrella:

1) Fighting
2) Head shots during the course of play

Both issues are something that needs to be taken seriously, with heavy penalties for players who give head shots to opposing players.

Fighting is a tricky subject, as it has been in the league for decades, and seems to add a degree of policing among the players themselves, as well as entertainment value for the fans. At some point, the league is going to weigh whether the bad publicity from enforcers being brain damaged is bad for public image and I wouldn’t be surprised to see it banned in years to come. Having players die directly due to on-ice activities is not something the league wants on its conscience.

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by stonecoldcory on Aug 16, 2011 1:23 PM EDT reply actions  

just thought id point out

After reading the comments everyone seems to have become experts at psychich autopsys because they’ve all decided this is definitely related to concussions. Let’s save our fighting/tough guys/ concussion debate for when they actually release his Case of death.

by nhl21 on Aug 17, 2011 10:36 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Cause*

by nhl21 on Aug 17, 2011 10:37 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Thoughts

Firstly, my condolences to family and friends. I came here to read about this after articles at Yahoo! and related links were littered with a) disregard for the death of a player (little in condolences) and b)using it again as a podium for spewing anti-fighting drivel. I would love to see some statistics that examine injuries in the NHL and how they came about. I am sure the overwhelming amounts will have been from the puck and illegal hits. The media frames things they way they want – every Rypien article I have read mentions Boogaard (and many others Probert too) to help instill that subconscious NHL tough-guy/drug addiction/depression connection. All I can say is that these instances are much deeper than the surface level portrayed. What would explain many of these players’ charity work? Could it be possible that fighting is used as a means of dealing with aggression/anxiety/temperament issues that existed long before their hockey careers (similar to a child fighting often in middle school)? Lots more has to be examined and more should be done to focus on the NHL and its support of people with disabilities and mental health issues.

by purinton on Aug 17, 2011 11:54 AM EDT reply actions  

Dale? I agree with your post. Who knows what goes through someone elses’ mind? I have to agree that most “enforcer” type players have to in one way or another like fighting. Furthermore, clean good hockey checks cause far more injuries than 99% of hockey fights. Like toxins, you can’t deny the cumulative effect of hits to the head , etc. Even when you are checked hard, not even close to a head shot, you still get the whiplash affect. Saying all this, from my hockey and my job experience, I think there is probably an underlying cause, such as depression. Furthermore, I think all enforcer type players should be looked at for PTSD, as it is possible. To link his death, Boogs death, and others is a stretch. My thoughts and prayers go out to their families and I will end it with that.

PRUSTOSTERONE!!!

by nathansfamous on Aug 18, 2011 3:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

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