Blueshirt Banter Talks To Gordie Clark: Chris Kreider Edition
Once again I want to give a tremendous thanks to the New York Rangers organization and their PR Department (especially John Rosasco) who helped me interview Gordie Clark about the upcoming Traverse City tournament and about some of the prospects within the Rangers organization. I would also like to thank Gordie, who gave a fantastic interview and took a significant amount of time out of his day to answer all of my questions.
Another topic breached in my 30-minute interview with Clark was the situation with highly touted prospect Chris Kreider. Clark goes into detail on how his game is progressing, his thought's on Kreider's decision to remain at Boston College for a third year and more.
Join me after the jump for that story:
One of the biggest names in the Ranger's farm system is Chris Kreider, the Ranger's first-round pick (19th overall) in the 2009 NHL Entry Draft. The high-scoring prospect had already agreed to attend Boston College when he was drafted and has already spent two seasons in the program tallying 26 goals and 21 assists for 47 points in 70 games. Kreider also has a Beanpot MVP award to his name, and lead the United States in goals during last year's World Junior Championship.
Gordie Clark, Director of Player Personnel for the New York Rangers, talked about Kreider's production at both levels since he's been drafted.
"The measuring stick we talked about earlier with the World Juniors, which has been played for the last few years up in Buffalo in front of NHL-sized crowds in an NHL-sized rink is that it's the next group of guys who are coming into the NHL for all NHL teams," he said. "And that, technically, is more of a measuring stick, and Chris went in and he impacted two World Juniors in a row. He played in five major tournaments that year, four in college, and he added a medal in Buffalo with the US team and the Beanpot and then played more of a role on the men's team as a 19-year-old kid."
Clark also went into detail on the different type of hockey Boston College provides for its players.
"Boston College has a very strong program, and they don't particularly put one guy on the ice more than another," he said. "They play everybody, everybody is happy on their team and they're successful, so why ruin it? He's not playing on all the power plays for Boston College and then on the World Junior team he is."
It's for that reason that Clark doesn't think too much stock should be taken in the numbers Kreider has put up in Hockey East.
"Sometimes you just need to take in the overall picture," he said. "Chris is so bloody fast and strong, if I coached him I would just tell him to go get the puck, because he can. And if he missed it the first time I'd tell him to go back again because he's so fast. He made all kinds of plays this year, he's a very underrated goal scorer."
That's not to say that Kreider has nothing to work on. Learning the game from a team concept is one of main lessons Kreider has learned in the NCAA ranks.
"What Chris had to learn, as he gets towards the NHL, is that the pros have a lot of very smart defenseman, and they're as strong as he is and some guys are even as fast as Chris," Clark said. "So he had to learn how to play a team game. And that's what [Boston College Head Coach] Jerry York was able to provide for him. And he and that coaching staff have done a great job. Everything isn't just dependent on him. At prep school it was "if Chris went we won." At Boston College you're one of the team; he's learned how to play a team game and learned how to play his position."
Despite the past two seasons at Boston College being fantastic learning experiences, many fans were upset to see Kreider chose to remain at the Hockey East powerhouse for a third season. Clark did talk about how these kids need to make the decisions for themselves, and talk to their families to figure out which is the best road to take. Clark believes that had some influence on his decision to stay in school.
"He is ready to turn pro, but it's his decision to make, and we support it," Clark said. "Chris had a load of classes over the summer because he's probably meeting his parents half way. So maybe he told them: 'I'm not going to go to school all four years, but I just accelerated myself and took four courses this summer' so maybe next year he can have the option to turn pro."
While a lot of people might not be happy with that answer, remember that there is a life after hockey. More than a few players have had loads of potential, but never made it in the NHL for whatever reason. If Kreider and his family made it a goal that he needs to graduate before he goes pro, then it shouldn't be looked at as an insult to the Rangers or towards his goal of becoming a professional hockey player.
The general consensus is that Kreider will find his was into the professional ranks next year, although nothing has been confirmed and at this point it's all speculation.
The concern about his game can probably take a backseat, even if he doesn't dominate in the NCAA in his third year. I've said it before and I will say it again, it's hard to judge a player's NCAA stats. Obviously you would expect him to have a better season, but his World Junior numbers do speak for themselves.
Thoughts on this guys?
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Is Kreider
Still eligible to play in the WJC this year?
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 18, 2011 1:18 PM EDT reply actions
I don't think so
I think he’s 20 now and its a U20 tournament
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by Kevin Power on Aug 18, 2011 2:02 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Depending on when his birthday is during the tournament he is still eligable. At 20 & under he can play, but if he turns 21 before or during the tournament then he can’t play.
by NYR #35 Richter on Aug 20, 2011 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Once again, excellent job!
And I can’t wait to see this kid on the Rangers. I believe patience will be rewarded here.
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by Stepan the Ice! on Aug 18, 2011 1:24 PM EDT reply actions
GREAT article Joe
Glad you were able to get Gordie to interview and answer some questions. It’s great that we can have inside information like this.
I think Kreider is making a very good personal decision to stay in school. While it may not be the “right” decision for the Rangers organziation, Kreider will be available to develop more under York, have a last go-round with his BC teammates, and earn his degree. Nothing wrong with wanting to be a kid one more year….
I think the NCAA is a very strange league to gauge a player’s skill. There are only around 25 games played per season, and the competition is tough every game. Very rarely did I see one player just take over a game. (*Here are some players that I DID see as monsters when they were in the NCAA: Ryan Whitney (BU), Keith Yandle (UNH), Pat Eaves (BC), Joe Fallon (Vermont), Parise & Toews (North Dakota). These guys were a step above everyone else). The NCAA is a pretty level playing field. All the guys are solid hockey players. But only a few are NHLers. If Kreider is already a step above everyone else in the NCAA, then teams will have to develop strategies to stop him. This will mean he gets extra attention from everyone he faces, and he will become a better player because of it.
Also, Jerry York is nothing short of a hockey genius. Kids want to play at BC for 3 reasons: a) solid history, b) Boston and its females, c) Jerry York.
Funny side story: I met an incoming freshman on the BC hockey team at a bar. Have NO recollection what his name was, but he was huge. He told my friend and I a story about he had hurt his foot earlier in the year, and the doctors found two stress fractures. He told the trainers about the pain he was having, and a few days later he was called into Coach York’s office. York said to him, “We brought you in here to be a big, knockaround defenseman. I don’t wanna hear any of this ‘pain’ stuff.” He said he knew right away that his attitude about hockey had to change immediately if he wanted to contribute to the team. Those guys don’t eff around.
TL;DR – Kreider should stay in the NCAA, Jerry York is Don Cherry+John Wayne
Kreider might not want to play for the Rangers.
This is nothing more than a hypothetical based on my understanding of the entry draft rights, but because he’s a North American NCAA player.. the Rangers only have his rights for two years or until 30 days after he leaves school (subject to two year minimum).
I think this means Kreider could play out this year at NCAA level, leave school and then refuse to sign with the Rangers. After 30 days he’d then be a UFA and free to sign anywhere (too old to re-enter draft), say perhaps the Boston Bruins.
Can someone tell me if this nightmare scenario is real or am I mis-remembering something I read about NHL Draft Rights?
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Aug 18, 2011 2:21 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
If you are right we should trade him instantly and get a great LW in return. I think that the Rangers should honestly ask him if he wants to be a Ranger. Being a top prospect he can be traded anywhere and his trade value is as high as it can get right now before he even hits the ice. Kreider could get us a solid 30 goal scorer 70 point player. I am not as high on Kreider being our savior as some and if a trade comes about that could make us a contender right now we should do it. But we should not acquire a one year rental player, as it’s going to take a really solid player to trade Kreider for.
Yeah I'm hopeful for Richards and Gaborik to work out... I mean how many FA signings does it take to hit the jackpot?
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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Aug 18, 2011 2:27 PM EDT up reply actions
Or he could be a huge success and we could kick ourselves in the ass
by XxC17xX on Aug 18, 2011 2:29 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
There is that possibility but if we trade him and win a cup it won’t matter now will it?
Yeah I'm hopeful for Richards and Gaborik to work out... I mean how many FA signings does it take to hit the jackpot?
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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Aug 18, 2011 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions
With the news lately, you could probably get Semin as part of a package w/ Kreider. That’s about it though.
I enjoy that even the kids think 30/70 guys are plentiful around the league that teams are just trading them all the time. I thought that was just for the guys who lived through the 80’s scoring boom.
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by George E. Ays on Aug 18, 2011 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions
If We Do A Full Package We Can Get A Lot Of People
Chris Kreider, Dan Girardi, and a 1st. Who can we get?
Nathan Horton- Not exactly a bona-fide winger, but would get the job done. but we would have to scale the trade down a bit.
Jordan Staal- I’d do it. He fits our needs and could play our style. But
Loui Eriksson- PERFECT. He played with Richards and has great chemistry with him. Great cap hit for his skills and is signed long term.
Yeah I'm hopeful for Richards and Gaborik to work out... I mean how many FA signings does it take to hit the jackpot?
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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Aug 18, 2011 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions
remember when there were lots of guys who scored 100 points a season and 60-70 point guys were middle of the road?
how times have changed
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Like he 92-93 season when 45 goals and 100 points barely made the top 20, and only 5 goalies even cracked .900 sv%
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by George E. Ays on Aug 19, 2011 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions
92-93 was an anomaly even among the high-flying 80s and early 90s
you routinely had 12-14 guys scoring 100 points every year, 8-10 guys scoring 90 points, 8-10 scoring 80 points, and then 10-20 guys in the 70 point range
expansion and rule changes have ensured we won’t see that again anytime soon
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HOW DO YOU KNOW KREIDER DOESN'T WANT TO PLAY FOR THE RANGERS?!
Why all of a sudden are we discussing trade proposals on Kreider when the Rangers have a great prospect on their hands and all he wants is another season of college hockey?
This kid has the great potential of being on the same team with his USA U-20 Gold Medal Teammate in Derek Stepan and all of a sudden you guys already assume he doesn’t want to wear a blueshirt?
This is crazy and let’s all calm down right now. This kid just wanted to remain in Boston College for one more season. When he is ready to come over to the NHL, it will happen. He will be a Ranger.
by NYR #35 Richter on Aug 20, 2011 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Kreider-Stepan-Thomas
I can’t wait to see this line
Agreed
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by BleedsRangerBlue on Aug 18, 2011 3:47 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I never knew Gordie Clark was British..
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