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Blueshirt Banter Talks To Gordie Clark: Dylan McIlrath Edition

Once again I want to give a tremendous thanks to the New York Rangers organization and their PR Department (especially John Rosasco) who helped me interview Gordie Clark about the upcoming Traverse City tournament and about some of the prospects within the Rangers organization. I would also like to thank Gordie, who gave a fantastic interview and took a significant amount of time out of his day to answer all of my questions. 

Another topic breached in my 30-minute interview with Clark was the situation with former first-round pick Dylan McIlrath

Join me after the jump for that story:

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When the Rangers selected Dylan McIlrath with the 10th overall pick back in 2010 there was a collective "who" released by the Rangers' faithful. After a full year within the Rangers system, there are questions over wether or not McIlrath can make a major impact in New York in the future. 

Gordie Clark, Director of Player Personnel for the New York Rangers, isn't worried about McIlraths development. When McIlrath was drafted he was brought in to add snarl and size to a blue line that has been void of such luxuries for years. 

The best part? McIlrath not only knows that his physicality is vital to his future success in the NHL, he wants to do it the right way. 

"He just has a tremendous development path," Clark said. "He is obviously going to be a very physical player, and he was clear with the fact that he couldn't just pump a lot of iron and get better. He wanted his body to mature naturally. And when he came into camp this year everything, I mean the shoulders, the back and the chest, everything just started to pop. He's much bigger and he's much thicker."

Writers have been questioning McIlrath's mobility since he was drafted, although a strong second half in this past OHL season silenced many of the critics.

"He's a very mobile player," Clark said. "I have been reading articles questioning his mobility and I can't understand why. He's always been a very good skater for a big man, he's a very natural skater and he's very mobile. I don't understand why people are only saying 'oh, now he is a better skater, because he always was. That's one of the things we loved about him."

Mobility is an invaluable tool, especially for a defenseman. Great imposing physical defenseman aren't just mean and tough, they are quick enough to get to where you are and stop you from doing anything productive in the offensive zone. 

These are traits Clark has seen, and likes, from McIlrath. 

"In today's game, as a defenseman, you have to be able to anticipate where the forward is going to go and you better have the feet to get in front of him, because that's the only way you're allowed to do it in the game," Clark said. 

While his offensive numbers don't jump out at you, causing many to simply write him off as a bad pick, he played an incredibly well rounded game at the end of last season. It was enough to catch Clark's eye, 

"We thought he was the most improved prospect for us in the second half of the season this year because he started playing more and he started moving the puck better," he said. "If his puck game improves in another year as much as it did this past year then he is going to be everything we thought he was going to be."

Comparisons to Cam Fowler, at least from a player-to-player perspective, don't make much sense. They're two different players and the Rangers drafted for a need rather than taking another guy with offensive upside. I would warn all of you who are awed by his numbers, they're similar to what Michael Del Zotto did his rookie year. 

That's not to say that Del Zotto isn't going to be a great player, he might be. That's also not to say that Fowler's second season won't be successful, it might be. It's just to say that the Rangers knew what they were passing up to get McIlrath, and they were excited when they got him. And by the looks of things, Clark, and the organization, are even more excited now. 

Thoughts guys? 

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Perfect timing too.

Now that Dru is finally done we can have that number 23 waiting for him when he gets here! Looking forward to the Big Nasty taking Broadway by balls.

by l.whit7873 on Aug 22, 2011 12:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I look forward to seeing him...

This year.
What else needs to be said.

As with Marc Staal in his first few years, McIlrath has the OHL to his avail, but not the AHL. So, if a 9-game tryout is what he gets, so be it…

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by Danz10 on Aug 22, 2011 1:21 PM EDT reply actions  

The problem is

there’s already a log jam at defense. Why rush McIlrath when you already might have Tim Erixon and Michael Del Zotto fighting for a roster spot?

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by Joe Fortunato on Aug 22, 2011 1:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

RIght. I’m thinking Eminger pairs with Erixon or MDZ and next season hopefully McIlrath replaces Eminger. Regardless of when he gets here, this guy is gonna be a fan favorite very quickly.

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by Joe1969 on Aug 22, 2011 1:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe,

if you sit either one and play the other for the time being until the 9 games are over, it’s not a loss. McIlrath will not be returning here or going to Connecticut once you’ve sent him down. It’s not a rush, the likes of when the Rangers began rebuilding. There is depth, and guys like Erixon, Eminger, and Del Zotto in the mix, this won’t leave the team hamstrung looking for a quick replacement.

"The winner of the Steven McDonald Extra Effort Award is Number Eight, Brandon Prust!"--Ofc. Colin McDonald, NYPD, April 7, 2011

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"Thanks, Chris. Enjoy your retirement."

by Danz10 on Aug 22, 2011 2:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mcilrath Will Come When....

Girardi is gone. Girardi will be the odd man out eventually, due to his cap hit and all. Plus he’s good trade bait. Mcilrath won’t make the team this year but hopefully the 2012-2013 season.

Yeah I'm hopeful for Richards and Gaborik to work out... I mean how many FA signings does it take to hit the jackpot?

Yes that's Richards hoisting the cup in the picture. I'm hoping 9 years from now I won't have to photoshop that picture.

by RichieToGabbySCORE on Aug 22, 2011 1:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Girardi for Dustin brown straight up sounds good maybe Girardi and a late round pick

by tl656 on Aug 22, 2011 3:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Unlikely

He’s the captain. The Kings need defense but Girardi and a first would get you Brown. Probably nothing less. Brown since he is a RW would probably be on a line with Stepan. He’s a good player and should be considered but I don’t think it’s likely the trade occurs. He’s exactly like Ryan Callahan.

Yeah I'm hopeful for Richards and Gaborik to work out... I mean how many FA signings does it take to hit the jackpot?

Yes that's Richards hoisting the cup in the picture. I'm hoping 9 years from now I won't have to photoshop that picture.

by RichieToGabbySCORE on Aug 22, 2011 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Have to add to Girardi. Brown is LA’s Cally.

by Dave Shapiro on Aug 22, 2011 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ofcourse Girardi

If a big trade occurs Girardi is the first to go. It’s not that he’s not good, it’s just he’s not good enough where he’s a huge loss. Mcilrath replaces girardi in a years time.

Yeah I'm hopeful for Richards and Gaborik to work out... I mean how many FA signings does it take to hit the jackpot?

Yes that's Richards hoisting the cup in the picture. I'm hoping 9 years from now I won't have to photoshop that picture.

by RichieToGabbySCORE on Aug 22, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

posted this before ... and got laughed at

Girardi and Hank for Brown and Quick. With the cap space saved, sign Penner next off season. Move Cally to LW, lines are:
Gabby-Richie-Cally
Brown-AA-Dubi
(best of our youth)-Step-Penner
Prust-Boyle-Rupp (or youth)

Staal-Erixon
Sauer-McD
Best 2 of MDZ, McI, etc …

That starts to sound like a cup winning team. Of course, Hank is untouchable, and no one really knows how good Quick will be. Also, LA would end up pretty cap strapped, but after their performance in last years playoffs, they might bleed to get better on D.

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by bleed'n blue on Aug 22, 2011 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

HANK?????????????????

Did u seriously and soberly inquire about the Rangers trading away our King? I wouldnt trade Hank for Ovechkin straight up. Even if Washington threw in a first round pick i still wouldnt do it and i love Ovechkin

by Eric Bure on Aug 22, 2011 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed

there is no way you trade Hank. The guy is priceless. IF we make a cup run he is the reason. There are very few more solid goalies in the league and I would make the argument there are none more valuable. I don’t understand those lines either. That trade makes the team weaker.

by Glenn Danzig vs Glen Sather on Aug 22, 2011 9:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wouldn’t trade Hank for OV either, it wouldn’t help the team. But I would trade whomever it takes to bring a cup to NY. It would sure be a shame if we ride this horse and end up like Beezer ot Cujo.

"There are some people who, if they don't already know, you can't tell 'em." - Yogi

by bleed'n blue on Aug 22, 2011 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I believe that no player is “untradeable” For some players it would take almost impossible scenarios to come up with trades, but still possible.

HOWEVER, the difference between Hank and Quick dwarfs the difference between Brown and Girardi. Thats a bad trade for us.

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by Moshe52792 on Aug 23, 2011 2:27 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh, I’m not ever suggesting Quick is nearly as good as Hank. And I completely agree with you that on talent alone this trade favors LA. However, factor in the cap hit for all players involved and you may have a more comrehensive picture. Freeing up that much cap space allows NY to do what many teams have done before a cup run … sign a marquee free agent, or pick-up a bit of an over paid superstar as a rental. (i.e. Marion Hosa) I would say that Quick is every bit as good (barring Thomas) and the last couple of Stanley Cup final goalies.

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by bleed'n blue on Aug 24, 2011 11:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

No Go On Hank

The only players that you could get a solid return for on Hank would be Stamkos, Crosby, Rick Nash, Ovechkin, and that’s about it. If you said Doughty, Kopitar, and Quick for Hank and a first I might have to consider. But other than that no way.

Yeah I'm hopeful for Richards and Gaborik to work out... I mean how many FA signings does it take to hit the jackpot?

Yes that's Richards hoisting the cup in the picture. I'm hoping 9 years from now I won't have to photoshop that picture.

by RichieToGabbySCORE on Aug 22, 2011 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stamkos, Crosby, Rick Nash, Ovechkin,

STILL NO, especially to Cindy. I dont care how talented the guy is i freaking hate his guts that whinny little baby!

by Eric Bure on Aug 22, 2011 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brown won't come cheap

unless LA is trying to dump him for some reason. Echoing the others, he’s their captain and has been near the top in hits, all while posting nearly 30g/30a seasons. I would be extremely surprised if he was dealt so cheaply. Girardi is a solid, responsible defenseman, but it would be like trading Dubi or Cally for Brooks Orpik or something. I doubt anyone here would consider that for more than a second.

by Graves on Aug 23, 2011 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

2012/13: Kreider, Thomas, Hagelin, and McIlrath full time. MDZ and Fowler had almost exactly the same rookie years so I wish fans would stop sounding like Fowler is the next Leetch or something. After my initial whining about the Undertaker pick I did the research and thought he was exactly what we need. Watch videos of this guy. He’s an animal. Go near his goalie and see what happens, lol.

by Richter1994 on Aug 22, 2011 6:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Fowler had one of the best power play units in the league. I really wish the Rangers hadn’t rushed Del Zotto. Look at the players who’ve played at least a year in juniors and the AHL after their draft years.

John Carlson
Cody Franson
Mike Green
PK Subban
Shea Weber
Keith Yandle

Not bad company. On that note, I see McIlrath playing juniors this upcoming season, and playing at least one and a half seasons in the AHL. I don’t expect to see him consistently wearing a Rangers jersey until the 2013-14 season at the earliest.

by Hoggo on Aug 23, 2011 2:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

totally agree on MDZ. everyone got excited by the offensive #s but the bottom line is he’s not a great skater and his D was always very suspect. the league caught onto him last year and his flaws were exposed. I’ve said all along he should start with the Whale this season. the big 4 probably should get some AHL time (Hagelin certainly will) but for some reason I have the feeling the other 3 will make the jump from juniors to the NHL. just a gut feeling.

by Richter1994 on Aug 24, 2011 6:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Nice update on the kid!

by Graves on Aug 23, 2011 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions  

McIlrath has his head on straight. Kid is a hard worker and has never just relied on his available skill to coast through a season he strives to get better every year.

I like where he is heading he is big mean and has the work ethic that will make him a better player through time. Especially now that he is in our organization who has been pretty good with the development of shut down D he should be able to thrive in our system.

We need another Buekeboom, Id love if we traded for his son almost just because but a skilled and nasty d man is never a bad thing to have on your team.

by Pballer505 on Aug 22, 2011 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

And his name is Brock!

Brock Beukeboom just screams mean and nasty.

by Graves on Aug 23, 2011 10:49 AM EDT up reply actions  

It doesn’t seem that we’ve been drafting on hockey sense of late, just on hard working physical players. McI, Kreider, and this year’s pick all fit that description; maybe that’s what Torts has been asking for

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by Scratch and Snif on Aug 22, 2011 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Good work. Mc is going to be fun to watch for years to come.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Aug 23, 2011 2:29 AM EDT reply actions  

It’s great that he’s improving, but again why wasn’t he invited to Team Canada’s camp?

by NTB on Aug 23, 2011 10:08 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

They only invited 16 d-men.

#12 Carl Hagelin

by The Blue Seats on Aug 23, 2011 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correction

The article says 16, but they list the roster and there was 17 dmen listed….

http://www.hockeycanada.ca/index.php/ci_id/170658/la_id/1.htm

Anyway, The invites include the likes of, Nathan Beaulieu, Brandon Gormley, Dougie Hamilton, Jérôme Gauthier-Leduc, Ryan Murphy… Notice a pattern?

The camp roster also includes 30 skaters with international experience at the under-18 level… All those players had that going for them, which McIlrath doesn’t.

#12 Carl Hagelin

by The Blue Seats on Aug 23, 2011 1:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Notice a pattern?

They’re all better than McIlrath?

Seriously, I’m not saying he needed to make the team and star for Team Canada. I’m more amazed that he wasn’t even asked.

by NTB on Aug 23, 2011 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

No… They are all known for bringing a significant amount of offense, and the tournament is tailored towards their types of player. They like to pick medium sized dmen with great puckhandling skills. 2/3s of the dmen there quarterback their clubs respective powerplay. There are only 2 defenseman on the invites list that is over 210 pounds, and one of them is Gudbranson. The only player of a McIlrath mold on the invite list is Oleksiak, and he is a man child.

They like to pick medium sized

#12 Carl Hagelin

by The Blue Seats on Aug 24, 2011 2:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Edit out that last line…

#12 Carl Hagelin

by The Blue Seats on Aug 24, 2011 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

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