NHL Breaking News: Shea Weber Awarded $7.5 Million From Arbitration
by Joe Fortunato on Aug 3, 2011 3:07 PM EDT
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Well the NHL news just keeps coming today, although this one affects the New York Rangers a little more than the Patrick Sharp signing did.
Shea Weber, who went to arbitration after the Nashville Predators filed for team-elected arbitration, was awarded $7.5 million today by an arbitration judge.
That's an astounding amount of money for the coveted restricted free agent that many linked to trade talks with the New York Rangers throughout the season. It also sets an astoundingly high bar if Weber were to hit the open market, basically pricing out teams anywhere near the cap ceiling.
I'm sure the huge price tag will also continue to create trade rumors, since many will assume the Predators will want to unload the contract to ease the financial burdens of the organization. Personally, I don't think there is a snowball's chance in Hell at that happening. Weber is a franchise-talent, and currently dons the "C" for Nashville.
Even if the Predators were willing to trade him, the ransom it would cost to acquire him would be immense. That alone will probably keep the Rangers, who have stuck to their guns when it comes to keeping their prospects and picks, far, far away.
Weber is still slated to be a restricted free agent next year, since the hearing was for one-year arbitration. That's another fact that might spur trade rumors, but again, don't put too much stock into seeing Weber on Broadway.
Also, since this was a team-elected arbitration, Nashville CAN'T walk away from the decision.
Anyway, thoughts on this move guys?
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What was his salary last season?
The Arbitration yields a one year contract and he’s a UFA next year, correct?
Let me know how that works out for you . . .
$4.5m for 3 years was his last deal.
He’s an RFA after the season. Arbitration has no effect on your UFA eligibility.
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by George E. Ays on Aug 3, 2011 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions
Still one more year RFA.
Team elected arb gives player the right to select one or 2 year term. He chose 1.
I’d bet NSH is dying right now – they figured the award would be in the 6 – 6.5 range.
Arbitrators sure seem to be player-friendly….
As is being pointed out by a couple people in the twitterverse, it probably means NSH barely put up a fight in the trial, in the hopes that they can still sign an extension with him.
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by George E. Ays on Aug 3, 2011 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions
whoa
that is way too much money even for someone like Weber. Who does he think he is? Wade Redden?? lol
That’s Chara’s cap hit. Arbitrator must have rated him as one of the top three D in the league and awarded him comparably.
7.5 = WOW!
Let me know how that works out for you . . .
i think...
the arbiter took one look at Weber with his playoff beard from last year and decided it would would be good to play it safe.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Aug 3, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions
Thats a lot of money.
Heres a question. Whats worth more:
Staal and Girardi. OR just Weber.
Staal and Girardi are making a combined 7.3 mil. Weber alone is making 7.5.
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I would keep Saal and Dany G
both of them had more points than Weber and are easier to move if it comes to that… who the hell would be able to afford a dman at 7.5 a year?? Rangers does not have the room anymore.
Just looked up Hamhuis but got nausious seeing Luongo @ 10M hit. WTF??
Let me know how that works out for you . . .
$10m salary…his cap hit isn’t that high.
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by George E. Ays on Aug 3, 2011 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions
both of them had more points than Weber
Say what now?
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 3, 2011 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Weber gives us everything our blueline is missing, and there’s a room full of Staal/Girardi style d-men waiting in the wings.
Would you trade Staal and Girardi for Weber?
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Some people might… if you think Girardi has hit his ceiling as many Rangers fans have, and many assume he will be a trade casualty eventually anyways with the defensive depth in the Rangers prospect corps. If he’s as defensively responsible as Staal, then you make the trade because he’s more offensively talented.
I wouldn’t do it for this year’s salary at $7.5 million, but if during his next contract comes in at $6 million, I’m sure there are GMs who would make that deal.
hmm...
he’s gonna have to really like you to take too much less, unless he has a really awful season and/or injured a lot.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Aug 3, 2011 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
That is a HUGE award. That has to put him in the top 5 in the league on D, as far as earnings this year. I mean I understand its Shea Weber, but we aren’t talking about Nicklas Lidstrom in his prime or Bobby frackin Orr. I could be in the minority here but anything over 6.5 is too much for a guy who has just played great hockey, but has nothing to show for it. I wouldn’t walk away from it even if I could, but damn, that’s a lot of money for a guy who is still an RFA.
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In terms of cap hit, It makes him the No.1 D, and T-7th overall with Gaborik, Stamkos, and I forget who and don’t feel like looking it up but think is Heatley.
I agree, it’s probably too much, but Weber’s just now entering his prime and can be argued should’ve won the Norris this year. He’s a beast.
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by George E. Ays on Aug 3, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
So
Even though he isn’t arb eligible. I wonder how much this changes Doughty’s demands.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 3, 2011 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Probably won’t help him with money because he’s not eligible, but you can be pretty sure that he’s not going to take a contract that buys a single arbitration year.
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by George E. Ays on Aug 3, 2011 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Makes me wonder
If they should offer Doughty something in the range of a Stamkos contract.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 3, 2011 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
I agree he should have won the Norris. In fact it still irritates me a minus player won the best D in the league award. How the hell is that possible? But we (the NHL) shouldn’t be handing down awards based on what ‘should’ have happened. The fact is, he hasn’t won the Norris. I just don’t see this as a good thing for anybody, aside from his wallet. That contract comes with a huge expectation to live up to it and if he doesn’t, if he has an off year, or the Preds have an off year, he isn’t going to get close to that the following year. It affects the market, it affects what Nashville can afford to pay the UFAs next year. I’m just really surprised by this award.
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In fact it still irritates me a minus player won the best D in the league award. How the hell is that possible?
Simple question to answer it: Do you really think Chara was +35 better than Lidstrom, or do you think Tim Thomas was way, way better than Howard/Osgood?
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by George E. Ays on Aug 3, 2011 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
According to Cap Geek, Weber just surpassed Campbell ($7.1) for #1 in the NHL. Obviously has a lot to do with the short contract, but that’s abusive to a team trying to contend.
Let me know how that works out for you . . .
Not really. Nashville is still below (or at due to this signing) the cap floor.
If anyone can afford this contract, its them.
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Which is why I don’t get why they didn’t get the long-term deal done… they have the space. Does anyone know if there’s a mandate from ownership not to exceed a certain roster salary?
I could see that, the team not being in a hockey town.
I’m sure this is.
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Just because you have cap space does not mean you have the cash. It is a business, and unlike the govt, if you don’t have the revenue, you can’t spend.
Most people on here are spoiled by their NY teams overflowing with cash. It is not like that in most places. NY just happens to be the most populous city.
by GAThingy on Aug 3, 2011 8:32 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions
Nothing to show for it
Isn’t really his fault. The Preds have a pop gun offense and play in the tougher conference.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 3, 2011 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Glen needs to get on the phone
If we make a deal with one of Staal/Girardi and WW (The preds still need to hit the floor) we can get far enough under to handle the hit this year, and then negotiate something long term/cap friendly
its gonna take a lot more
to get Weber and would not want to mortgage our team for one guy no matter how good he is
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There are simply players
That are not available for trade. I’d imagine they’d try to sell off other players before they consider trading Weber. Plus, Staal/Girardi and WW doesn’t really alleviate their cap situation for this year.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 3, 2011 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Their cap problems aren’t this year anyway..they’re just over the floor now with enough players to field a team.
The problem is next year for them, as Weber is an RFA, and more importantly, Suter & Rinne are UFAs
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by George E. Ays on Aug 3, 2011 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions
Like George said, I don’t think it’s so much the Cap problem now, since Weber’s contract would put them just over the floor, I think it’s more that they might realize they can’t take the chance of investing SO MUCH in a few players. The Preds seem to be picking up some support, but it’s still a slippery slope. One bad season and they are back in the red, and paying Weber, Suter and Rinne big contracts if they keep all 3.
I think the sooner they move Weber (if that’s their plan) the better it is for the team. The just went through arbitration, Weber is their captain, and he’s on a one year deal. Their also trying to build on last seasons success, and all those things can be a bit of a distraction. The longer the wait on Weber, the tougher it might be to get a decent return for him. A 7.5 mil cap hit isn’t something a contender can usually slide under their cap at the deadline, even if it is pro-rated.
Wasn’t saying that would be the whole deal, just that those players would have to be a part. Weber is an upgrade over Staal or Girardi, so it’s not a big deal, and moving WW would give us room to absorb Webers hit this season, since the other parts would likely be young players/prospects/picks.
As I suggested in the other thread I would offer any two defensemen, and then any combo of 2 1st rd picks/prospects. That lets the Preds get, essentially, the 4 #1’s they would get if he was an RFA, but instead of picks over the next 4 years, they get players closer to contributing.
Why would the Preds take someone back in the deal that is due to become a UFA after this year? I think they’d want a couple of players they could control for the next couple of years.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 3, 2011 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions
The Preds are 7 mil under the floor right now. WW isn’t sweetening the deal for them so much (other then eating some cap) as he is sweetening it for us. We make the deal with them for the picks/prospects/players they think are fair, and then make them take WW to to give us space to take the 7.5 mil on.
Capgeek has them as just over the floor.
The Preds aren’t necessarily in the same situation as the Panthers or Isles where they will acquire contracts just for the sake of reaching the floor and continue a rebuilding process. They are a much more competitive team and I’d imagine they’d ask for players that contribute now and are cost controlled for the next couple of seasons.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 3, 2011 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Actually
Scratch that, Wolski is only a UFA.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 3, 2011 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
To be honest, WW is pretty much a UFA anyway. Who’s gonna give him a qualifying offer if he has another year like last year? So essentially he may very well be a UFA at the end of the year.
'Cause Brawndo's got electrolyes....
Well that's why he's the wildcard
He could go back to a player that’s right around 50 points per year and command around the same amount he’s costing now. If Leino could get the deal he got, Wolski is younger and people may view last year as an exception.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 3, 2011 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Even though
They’re not powerhouse out West, they’re still a playoff team with enough guys in and around their prime. I think they’d want some guys that have proven they can play in the NHL. So I’d say it would take something at least like McDonagh/Anisimov and a blue chip prospect to start the conversation.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 3, 2011 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Arbitrator has a screw loose
I have a hard time justifying that one player is worth 1/8 the cap when there are 22 on the team. Gaborik certainly wasn’t last year. There should be something in the CBA that a player can’t go over 10% of the cap. That’ll get the players to think about doing something to increase league revenue, not just suck it dry like leeches.
Not to mention Weber is still an RFA next year. So the arbitrator is saying next year it’s reasonable that the Predators should give a qualifying offer of another 7.5Million to him as an RFA? Just to keep other teams from snagging him? Ridiculous.
'Cause Brawndo's got electrolyes....
There is an individual cap limit
It’s 20%.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 3, 2011 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
It made more sense
When the cap was lower. Considering the first year post lockout salary cap is now lower than the current salary floor it probably needs to be re-calibrated. But even the dumbest of the dumb GMs knew that investing 20% of your payroll in one player was not the move to make.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 3, 2011 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions
15% is probably good
Then that puts Ovech right at the limit. With that limit the arbitrators should be less likely to go nuts like this time.
'Cause Brawndo's got electrolyes....
I don't really see the individual cap limit
As being the big issue. Front loading deals and having long term deals to artificially lower the cap hit is a bigger deal.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Aug 3, 2011 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Well it doesn’t need to come down if GMs aren’t dumb enough to spend to it.
The highest hit is OV, and he’s making like 9.5
Now basketball on the other hand. Max contract is like a 3rd of the team.
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It would probably be..
Dubi/Cally + Staal/Girardi.
Or like Staal/Girardi, Wolski, 1st rounder, top prospect.
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I’m sure I’ll get shit for this, but I’d send Girardi, Wolski, MDZ, and a 1st for Weber in a second.
by j-red on Aug 3, 2011 6:03 PM EDT up reply actions 2 recs
good package but not enough for probably the best D in the league. se mine. that’s what it would take, if at all.
he's def great...
but no way i see him as THE best D in the league…
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by Master Ov Brutality on Aug 3, 2011 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Talking overall
Offense, defense, physicality, youth, leadership he might be
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by Joe Fortunato on Aug 3, 2011 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions
not even a question. the only other D in the conversation is Chara but he will be past his prime. Weber is 25 and one of the most important players on the Canadian team already. who’s better? if I had to pick any players I could have regardless of position or $$, I say: 1. Ovi, 2. Stamkos, 3. WEBER, 4. Cindy, 5. Chara, 6. Kovy. These are all individual game-changers.
dont care how old he is...
Lidstrom until he retires.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Aug 4, 2011 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions
can’t argue too much with that but it’s hard to compare a 42 year old to a 25 year old that is almost an equal now and will only get better, I assume.
truth...
so by the end of this next season when Lidstrom’s contract is up, i’d expect him to retire. Then Shea can step up and be THE man.
I will say his playoff beard alone should put him over the top….assuming the Preds make it this season.
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by Master Ov Brutality on Aug 4, 2011 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions
Perhaps, but if you had to pick one defensemen in the NHL to have on your team, you’d pick Weber over Lidstrom due to the amount of years they can play for.
There are a few others in the conversation as well.
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I’d do it. Easy.
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I agree my friend: Dubi/Cally, Girardi, Kreider, and if we REALLY have to, Wolski (but could be a deal-breaker, lmao).
Doesn’t come close to filling the hole Weber leaves behind.
If I’m NSH, talk to me about Girardi and Sauer or McDonagh, plus Erixon and a 1st. One establshed NHL D-man, one young NHL player with plenty of upside, a good prospect and a pick.
I don’t want Wolski no matter how much you want to be rid of him, and you can’t talk me into taking him for my cap floor.
That wouldn't get it done*
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by The Blue Seats on Aug 3, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions
You’ll notice that what I wrote is ALL defenders.
You’re taking away my best blue-liner – a solid 2 way guy and a top 4 in the NHL (supposedly). You want me to take back a good guy in Girardi – and a bunch of forwards?? Sorry – non-starter.
true, good point, so Dubi, Girardi, Erixon and a #1. don’t forget Ryan Eliis is on the way too for the Preds.
And remember, they just traded Fransen, so I doubt they are looking to move another Dman, much less their franchise dman.
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by The Blue Seats on Aug 3, 2011 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
probably not. but $$ are an issue in Nashville. $7.5M this year. $8.5M next year? in NY it’s not an issue. there it is. even for Weber.
Since nobody has any idea what joy the next CBA holds, that’s a bold prediction. None of us knows what new issues from a salary cap perspective are lurking there.
What if the cap comes down by 15mm?? Now you’ve given up boatload of assets (some of them quite ‘cheap’) for a guy on a 1 year deal who you might not be able to squeeze in based on the new agreement – and who’s an RFA looking for a big long-term deal.
20% roll back talked about a lot. that’s why these FAs and RFAs went for the $$ this year because they could be cut in $$ with the new CBA.
But the way the league operates, you can’t know that until you take the risk and make the trade. The potential for him not to agree to a long-term deal exists – whether it is a slight risk or a huge one is the gamble.
Fold? Or go all-in with an open-ended straight?
in your scenario? fold. the only way I give up that package is if he’s signed for 10 years and is a ranger for life.
Right.
Now, if the NHL allowed the NBA or MLB equivalent of a sign/trade, where everyone knows all along where he’s going, and NSH could make the deal happen then ship him off – I’d have to consider it – because then I don’t have to worry about “the gamble”.
But under NHL rules – too big of a risk, IMO. Like you, I’d fold.
Which is why trades for guys like Weber DONT happen.
Both teams would feel that they were loosing out. I wouldn’t trade Girardi, McD, Erixon, and a 1st. But Nashville fans would say its not enough.
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Hmm...
Instead of drooling over Weber it is a better idea to look at his underrated d partner that is hitting UFA next year.
We won’t have to give anything up to get Suter, we will have plenty of cap space when he is available (if he goes to UFA), can bring offense from the blue line, and won’t ask for a ridiculous contract.
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Oh,
And he is an American Olympian.
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by The Blue Seats on Aug 3, 2011 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions
Nashville is going to have a lot on their plate next summer.
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by The Blue Seats on Aug 3, 2011 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions
Why the obsession with this guy?
This team is D rich.. the only trade I’m interested in will be the one next off-season (5% chance it happens at 2011-2012 trade deadline) for an elite scoring wing.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Aug 3, 2011 6:34 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
Webber
For Staal and Wolski. Cap stays the same, and allows Erixon and MDZ to stay on the roster. I know everyone will crucify me for saying it, but Webber and Girardi is waaaay better than Staal. And he can for sure QB the PP.
No way Nashville does that.
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Maybe Wolski puts up 50-60 points this year and becomes one. Still not enough though.
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Never going to happen. Nashville wouldn’t go out of its way to acquire a defenseman, they are a factory for good defenders. Just look at some of the names that have come from there in the last few years: Weber, Suter, Hamhuis, etc.
I believe they have Ryan Ellis waiting in the wings too. Trade doesn’t make any sense at all.
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I look at Nashville’s success with defensemen as MORE reason for them to be interested in taking some young guys back. If they see a couple pieces in our system they think they can get to the show, or to the next level in development, for less money, it could be appealing. Also, IF, and it’s still a huge IF, Nashville even considered moving Weber, I think it would be more about not having the distraction of his contract for two seasons, and freeing up assets for their UFA’s (Suter, Rinne) next season, while trying to get maximum return for Weber. No defenseman they take back is going to be Weber, but offering Marc Staal at the center of a package could be a decent patch and he’s locked up at half the price for the near future. Suter becomes the clear #1 down there, and Staal can step into the 1A role I think he’s best suited for. I think you still have to include quite a bit on top of Staal to get it done though.
Staal and Suter would still be an awesome pair.
Staal is no Weber, but it a real good start to the package. I don’t believe much more than a 1st and a solid prospect would be necessary.
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According to what Spector had up today, there’s no bad blood between Weber and the Preds, so maybe they try to ride it out. Also said Poile was interested in acquiring a top 6 forward – not that he was trading Weber for one, or even shopping him, just that he wants to add a forward. I’d been thinking that offering something to atleast patch the hole Weber left would give us an advantage, but I think now the chances of Weber, if he does move, winding up somewhere like Anaheim might be alot more realistic. If he wants offense, I don’t see us being able to offer it. Unless they would want Gabby and Staal and picks/prospects – which I wouldn’t mind doing.
I don’t think Richards needs Gabby as much as Gabby needs Richards (if Richards will even WORK with Gabby). Richards has worked well with young wingers before. I could see him doing just as well with others as he could with Gabby.
No way I would trade Gabby, Staal, and picks/prospects for Weber. Thats way too much. I agree with your point though that Gabby needs Richards more than Richards needs Gabby, but even if the two don’t work out well together we could still see a top six of.
Dubinsky Anisimov Gaborik
Wolski Richards Callahan
Or something like that would be fine by me.
And a team like Anaheim would be a very realistic destination. They have space, a relatively weak defense (especially defensive type defensemen), and a very strong offense.
Perry or Ryan as the centerpiece of the deal would be enticing.
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Weber is the best young player at his position, with a long career in front of him. The RFA would be 4 #1’s, so I think that’s a pretty decent place to start the bidding for him. If other teams can offer an elite young forward, an often injured, sometimes disapearing, streaky scoring Gabby doesn’t even come close to competing with that. But if we can offer a defenseman who can patch the hole Weber leaves and an immediate top 6 player AS WELL AS a couple of picks/prospects for down the road, I think we might have the type of return Poile is looking for. He’s giving up a VERY special player, the sky is the limit on what he can expect in return.
I just don’t believe making that trade makes the team better.
Of course, a lot of this is contingent on how much he’s making a year.
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Only Nashville doesn't want Wolski and Stall isn't enough.
and we need to clear more cap. And with a guy like Weber here…Girardi will get a hefty payday next time around……Keep Staal and find an elite wing.
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I think if Girardi is going to get a hefty payday he’s got to add some more offense to his game. I can see Staal getting close to that, he’s showed a little offensive spark in his game. The next couple of years are going to be great for these guys.
by Beukeboom hockey on Aug 4, 2011 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I don’t see Girardi getting much of a raise. Maybe up to 4.5 but thats it. He’s great on the defensive end, but defensemen don’t get paid north of that amount unless they have a strong two-way game.
His cap hit is friendly at this point however, as it Staals.
Those two, Sauer, McD, Erixon, MDZ + will be an awesome D for the next few years.
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Where were these rumors of trade talks between Nash and us for Shea Weber? I don’t remember any of that during the regular season (maybe this offseason fans speculated but that’s not really worth much).
Well that’s different, II don’t remember any "rumors’ of Weber going anywhere, let alone the Rangers, during the season seeing as Nasvhille was in the playoff picture the entire time.
No rumors. Just brainstorming fantasies.
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Is it me...
Or did I get scooped here? I went out and wrote about this yesterday. Did I miss something?
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by Danz10 on Aug 3, 2011 9:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions
You didn’t write about Weber’s contract. You wrote about whether a trade was possible. Yes, of course news of the award sparked that discussion here, but there’s nothing alike between your fanpost and Joe’s story.
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by George E. Ays on Aug 3, 2011 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions
Wow.
Crazy money.
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