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New York Rangers News: Christian Thomas Opening Eyes With Team Canada

LOS ANGELES, CA - JUNE 26:  Christian Thomas, drafted in the second round by the New York Rangers, is interviewed during day two of the 2010 NHL Entry Draft at Staples Center on June 26, 2010 in Los Angeles, California.  (Photo by Jeff Gross/Getty Images)

New York Rangers prospect Christian Thomas is about as highly touted as they come. Most of that comes from his jaw-dropping numbers in the OHL last season where he posted 54 goals and 45 assists for 99 points in 66 regular season games. He also dropped nine goals and 10 assists for 19 points in 10 playoff games for the Oshawa Generals last year.

Aside from preparing himself for training camp, in which he is expected to get a hard look from the Rangers brass, he is currently practicing with the Hockey Canada National Junior Team at their summer development camp. Thomas, along with a plethora of other prospects, are auditioning for a position on Canada's World Junior Championship team.

Thomas did what he was expected to do in the camp's first Red-White scrimmage last weekend, scoring the first goal for Team White in a come-from-behind 5-4 victory. 

Join me after the jump for more on what this means for Thomas. 

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A good showing at Canada's camp, especially if he makes the WJC squad, would continue to boost his already sky-rocketing pre-NHL career. Competing in the Wold Juniors would give Thomas even more big-game experience, and it would be a good litmus test to see where he stands in comparison to the other budding talents the NHL has to offer. 

Thomas has a skill set that seems to fit perfectly with what the Rangers are in need of. His shot has been placed in the "wow" category, and his vision and ability to create something out of nothing are major pieces to his game. Look at his goal scored in the first scrimmage, as explained by the Rangers official website

Sent out to provide some energy in response to the game's first goal -- a power-play blast from Team Red defenseman Jamie Oleksiak -- Thomas responded in style when he pounced on the rebound of a shot by his Oshawa teammate and Development Camp linemate Boone Jenner and managed to scored from the slot as he was being knocked to the ice by a Team Red defender.

Thomas showed his great skill as a shooter by finding the puck with his skate through traffic, kicking it over to his stick, and then keeping his balance just long enough to rifle a shot off the right post and into the net past Team Red goalie Mark Visentin. He was literally on one knee when he took the shot.    

Despite all the hype, many still assume that Thomas will be a long-shot to make the team out of camp. Especially with the addition of Brad Richards and Mike Rupp, there doesn't seem to be enough room for all of last year's players to make the squad. With both Erik Christensen and Mats Zuccarello on the fence when it comes to making the team at forward,  Thomas would have to have an absolute stellar camp to push past either of them, let alone a player who was a staple on last year's roster. 

That's not to say it's impossible however, especially when one is talking about a player with as much talent and potential as Thomas, but making the team out of camp would be a bit of a surprise. 

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Thomas won’t make this year’s team because of the Rangers’ travels overseas and being on the road at the start of the season. But I see this kid as a potential 30 goal scorer with his talent, determination, and the necessary grit it takes to play in the NHL. I am predicting he pans out better than Kreider, that’s how I feel about Thomas. He’s our Skinner, IMO.

by Richter1994 on Aug 8, 2011 6:30 AM EDT reply actions  

You don’t think they’ll give him the nine game tryout before they have to either send him back to juniors or keep him up? If he has a great camp (not even stellar), they just might. Thomas / Stepan / whoever would be an exciting line, especially if Stepan isn’t moved to wing.

by Kritikal on Aug 8, 2011 9:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

he's not going to get much playing time in that nine game cup of coffee

let him play during training camp, send him back to juniors, and next fall with (theoretically) more roster spots open (avery, christensen, fedotenko, possibly wolski) he’ll have a chance to crack the club and play more meaningful minutes

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by joereiter on Aug 8, 2011 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions  

No, because of the European and away schedule due to the renovations. Home opener isn’t until Oct 27th this year. Otherwise I think he would have gotten the 9 game look-see.

by Richter1994 on Aug 8, 2011 10:23 AM EDT up reply actions  

European Schedule

Aren’t they going to start the new few seasons in Europe? Regardless I think he’ll be better off in Jrs. Like Joe said with the opening in roster spots next year it would probably be better to see him as a 2012-13 rookie.

by dirtydave6986 on Aug 8, 2011 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably, but you don’t want someone that will probably go back to juniors on a trip like that. If he makes the team full time then that’s a different story.

by Richter1994 on Aug 9, 2011 6:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Why is the trip such a problem?

He would make such a trip if he makes the WJC team if the tournament was played in Europe this year.

by LJR on Aug 9, 2011 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

because you’re really disrupting the kid’s schedule since he would probably go back to juniors anyway. if he had a real shot to stay with the Rangers then it would be different. where would he play? don’t bring him here to play bottom 6, no way.

by Richter1994 on Aug 9, 2011 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions  

I see him as a strong midseason call up

Every season has injuries and dissapointments. If players like wolski or avery or even rupp have a lengthly cold stetch, then I think we will see thomas. If he plays well then he could end up relieving one of them of a job, but I think they’ll leave him down for the begining of he season

by nhl21 on Aug 8, 2011 9:47 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

He can’t be called up, either he plays the first 9 games and goes to juniors or he stays in the NHL the whole season

by teknics on Aug 8, 2011 10:00 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

that’s correct. he’ll go back to juniors. no reason to rush him. he’ll make the team next season, IMO.

by Richter1994 on Aug 8, 2011 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Technically, they can send him back to juniors at any point in the season, it would just count as a year against his ELC, which is why you rarely see it.

If I recall correctly Bruins fans were contemplating whether it is the right move to send Seguin back to Plymouth about midway through the season.

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by The Blue Seats on Aug 8, 2011 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heart Christian Thomas

That is all

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by Kevin Power on Aug 8, 2011 10:46 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

watch his one timer

i don’t understand how someone his size can have a shot that big.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9plfcm6P7yg

by smitty046 on Aug 8, 2011 11:50 AM EDT reply actions  

Unless he dazzles in preseason...

Better off with another year of juniors and big role at WJC. He’ll join Whale at end of season (assuming Oshawa goes out early) and possibly for playoffs. That will be interesting to see.

by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Aug 8, 2011 11:58 AM EDT via mobile reply actions  

I think he's as ready as anyone...

if not moreso right now. I see a mixture of his dad and Guy LaFleur in his game. He could very well make this team this year. He has a huge shot, and it’s far more accurate than most I’ve seen in years. It would be criminal, IMO, to not have him at least get the nine-game tryout up with the big club.

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by Danz10 on Aug 8, 2011 12:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Obvioulsy experience is crucial, but in terms of raw scoring ability, he would be top 5 on the rangers right now. I’m concerned about his size/speed/skating (which I know nothing about)…too bad he isn’t old enough to play for the whale becuase I think another year in Oshawa won’t do him much good.

by Town on Aug 8, 2011 12:26 PM EDT reply actions  

The NHL is littered with “highly touted” players who were rushed. I’d rather see Thomas on the Rangers a year too late than a year too early. Let him play his last year in Oshawa, get some AHL time at the end of the season, then make the determination at next year’s camp.

There will be plenty of opportunity to prove himself against the vets and other prospects and earn a spot, especially with Avery and Christensen’s spots opening up.

by Hoggo on Aug 8, 2011 12:36 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

I think we all agree his talent and pedigree are elite.

Let’s just see how it plays out in training camp. The physical maturity is the main unknown IMO. Unless he’s going to justify regular minutes (2nd line/3rd line), they are better off waiting. Hagelin projects better into the bottom of the line up at this point given age/size/experience and penalty killing expertise.

by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Aug 8, 2011 12:46 PM EDT via mobile reply actions  

Only Will See Him With the Cliub

IF, and only if Stepan and Boyle both get moved out of the middle, and we get weak play in the middle from whoever goes there (probably Christensen). So hey, maybe it’s not so crazy after all!

by callahanisgod on Aug 8, 2011 12:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Thomas is a winger, I don’t see what he helps if Step and Boyle struggle. That might open the door for Lindberg or Bourque, but not Thomas.

The thing with Thomas is his spot is being blocked by two fairly important Rangers right now in Gaborik and Callahan. Sure, he could play a 3rd line role, but you have Prust and potentially Rupp clogging up that spot. The team isn’t built to add Thomas this year, so he’s going to have to force his way in.

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by George E. Ays on Aug 8, 2011 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oops. For some reason I thought he was a center. But like you said, and what I was trying to get at, is we have a log-jam at a bunch of positions, and a player of his talent shouldn’t get called up to play fourth line minutes. Let him develop more and wait until his time comes.

by callahanisgod on Aug 8, 2011 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also you don’t want to bring up a kid with that much offensive firepower and stick him to a 3rd line grinder role

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by Kevin Power on Aug 8, 2011 3:24 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

The way the team is built right now, our 3rd line isn’t going to be grinding unless Boyle Prust is somehow the 3rd

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by George E. Ays on Aug 8, 2011 3:55 PM EDT via mobile up reply actions  

Yeah, MZA – Stepan – Thomas wouldn’t be grinding

by callahanisgod on Aug 8, 2011 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

If anything, the Dubi-AA-Cally line will be able to effectively be our top defensive line, just able to do the job offensively as well. And Prust-Boyle-Rupp can play the grinder role as well, of course.

by LJR on Aug 9, 2011 11:14 AM EDT up reply actions  

I don’t see those guys going anywhere soon—what do you think will change in the next few years?

by Town on Aug 8, 2011 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

No clue. Something’s going to give, it just won’t be this year.

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by George E. Ays on Aug 8, 2011 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hate to say it but I think Thomas is a long shot to make the team… mainly for the reasons that were mentioned above, there just isn’t room right now unless they push him ahead of some other players on the Depth Chart, No reason to keep him around to play 3rd or 4th line minutes when he is young enough to play 1st line minutes in juniors for another year… I’d be very surprised if he made the team… Kids got major talent and we could use him, but if we take him on and waste him by sitting him down for the majority of the game whats the point…

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by Clalicata17 on Aug 8, 2011 3:11 PM EDT reply actions  

3rd line minutes would be fine

If he plays 12 minutes a night with Step and whoever is their LW, that would do nothing to hinder his development relative to going to junior, if he is ready for it. But I wouldn’t want to see him on the 4th line.

by LJR on Aug 9, 2011 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Hey all

JT Miller and Shane McColgan are playing vs Finland right now.

It is being streamed on Fasthockey.com is anyone has any credits. It costs like 6 dollars.

I’ll give a scouting report after the game.

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by The Blue Seats on Aug 8, 2011 4:36 PM EDT reply actions  

And Mike Sullivan is the coach. Didn’t know that.

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by The Blue Seats on Aug 8, 2011 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really just can’t wait to see this kid play in the NHL. I know it’s a long shot, but it’d be really cool if he made the team at some point this season. How much could another year in juniors really do for him? He already dominates his league..

by One 2nd on Aug 8, 2011 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

How about this line combo...

Thomas-Richards-Gaborik

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by Kendrick Jay on Aug 8, 2011 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Obviously that's an insane amount of pressure to put on the kid

But it just sounds awesome

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by Kendrick Jay on Aug 8, 2011 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

yea that is the one I dream about too especially as the other two would give him a lot of space but obviously he’d have to be unbelievable in camp to get that spot. then again, he has done nothing but excel this past year and not being able to go to hartford is a shame as I don’t know how much more he can do in the O. What I love most about his #s last year is no one else on his team put up nearly anything as big

by bwl1 on Aug 8, 2011 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

As far as I know he's alwys played RW/

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by Moshe52792 on Aug 8, 2011 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think at this point he's definitely our best prospect.

I think next year he will have a legit chance with the big club. With Wolski, Feds, Christensen, and Avery most likely gone, there will be some space for the kids. Maybe next year we see something like:

Dubinsky Richards Gaborik
MZA Anisimov Callahan
Hagelin Stepan Thomas
Rupp Boyle Prust

thoughts?

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by Moshe52792 on Aug 8, 2011 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

My first thought?

Can it be next year already?

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by Kevin Power on Aug 8, 2011 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Love it except mine looks like this...

(* next big Sather mindtrick acquisition*) – Richards-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Callahan
Hagelin-Stepan-Thomas
Rupp-Boyle-Prust

3rd line LW could be TBD after we see who has to be dealt for the true #1 LW. Bourque/Krieder/Miller/Hagelin/MZA all could be on that line or in that deal in my eyes.

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by Kendrick Jay on Aug 8, 2011 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree I think there is a decent chance that Sather goes for a top line LW mainly because our excess at D although I think that Kreider and Thomas (not a LW but idk if that is set in stone) both have the potential for that spot…

by bwl1 on Aug 8, 2011 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's certianly a top prospect

but people in closer circles will tell you Kreider is the best one the Rangers have. Mainly because of his international experience, but in the end, they’re both going to be tremendous game-breaking players for the Rangers int he future.

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by Joe Fortunato on Aug 8, 2011 8:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zucarello- Richards- Gaborik
Dubinsky- Anisimov- Callahan
Probably Kreider though I’m not convinced- Stepan- Thomas
Hagelin- Boyle- Prust

If he plays well and is willing to take a 2 year- $3.5-4 million dollar deal, I’d like the Rangers to hang on to Wolski and slot him in at the 3rd line LW.

by Hoggo on Aug 9, 2011 6:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

is it September yet?

Shoot the puck Barry!!!

by dsteak on Aug 9, 2011 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

cant wait to watch him in traverse tournament

by Eric Bure on Aug 9, 2011 4:17 AM EDT reply actions  

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