Flyers: 5, Rangers 3: The Good, The Bad And The Ugly
This was the Rangers last preseason game before their Magical Mystery Tour kicks off to the Czech Republic, Slovakia, Switzerland, and finally Sweden and boy did the Flyers want to make an early, and lasting, impression.
The first period was about as ugly a first period as you could get. While it started with Andreas Thurssen getting his first goal of the preseason off some wonderful passing and offensive zone play by Sean Avery and Brian Boyle. After that is when everything began to blow up. It started with Michael Sauer falling into the boards awkwardly after being hit by Zac Rinaldo.
After the ensuing scuffle, MSG caught Avery and Wayne Simmonds chatting each other up before a face off, most likely not sharing fashion tips, and after Tom Sestito drove in from the turnpike and boarded Andre Deveaux, who had his back turned to the play, all hell broke loose as the game became a mess of penalties and power plays that eventually saw ex-Ranger Jaromir Jagr score his first goal of the night using Ryan McDonagh as a screen launching his signature one timer past Henrik Lundqvist.
The Second period saw both teams even out the physical play with some more offense both John Mitchell and Brian Boyle scored power play goals for the Rangers while Jagr added his second of the game and future AHLer Matt Read netted power play goals to make things all even at 3 going into the third period.
Going into the third period the Rangers spent the first two periods without Michael Sauer who did not return after hurting his shoulder when he slammed it awkwardly into the boards. The Rangers also lost the "services" of Sean Avery after he hurt his leg blocking a shot in the second period (more on Sean later).
The third period saw both teams slow the pace of the game down as both teams played more possession hockey and took fewer chances with both teams trading close calls with Brayden Coburn notching Philly's fourth goal (and it's first even strength goal of the game). Wayne Simmonds added the empty netter to seal the deal for the Flyers as they skated away with the victory.
After the jump; Highlights, My Good, Bad and Ugly and some closing thoughts
The Good:
Brian Boyle had a very strong game in my opinion. He won key face offs in the offensive zone, one in which directly resulted in his deflection of a Dan Girardi shot for a power play goal
Mats Zuccarello: Mats was buzzing all around the offensive zone when he was out there. Getting down deep, fighting for pucks and using his great vision to set up John Mitchell for a nice power play goal in the second
John Mitchell: Mitchell had a very strong game tonight and he cashed in with a power play goal finishing off a perfect feed from Mats Zuccarello. Mitchell has been slowly making a case for himself and tonight's game will keep him in the back of the minds of Ranger fans and brass alike.
The Bad:
Tim Erixon: The rookie has had a strong preseason camp thus far but today he had his first bad game as he was put on the short handed unit with Michael Del Zotto to try and stop the Philadelphia power play and more importantly try to stop Jaromir Jagr. Well, it didn't work, Erixon often looked out of his element and would sometimes lose his coverage of Jagr which would lead to him getting good looks on the power play. While 5 on 5 and on the power play Erixon looked like the calm, confident defender we have been hearing so much about this offseason. He did however take a couple of stupid penalties when it seemed like every player was taking stupid penalties.
Michael Del Zotto: Del Zotto had a very similar game that Erixon, he showed that he's not ready to face top competition and when he was on the ice against the Flyers best it showed. Del Zotto did look more focused on the power play and he started looking for open teammates in order to set up plays instead of rushing plays that were not there
Eric Christensen: Hello? EC? You there? That sound you hear is the sound of your window of opportunity quickly closing. I had to check the stat sheet to remind myself that he was playing tonight. I can understand guys like Ryan Bourque and Carl Hagelin not having as much of an impact in a game like this since Torts did not put them in a lot of special teams opportunity. Meanwhile, Eric had ample time on the Rangers power play tonight and came up empty. His time is quickly running out.
The Ugly:
Sean Avery: Oh Sean, this game played right into your wheelhouse; both teams were running high on emotion as both teams began hitting everything in an opposing team's jersey. However, Avery got himself an unsportsmanlike conduct penalty for mouthing off a referee. Did Sean get hit up high? Yes, he did. Did he have every right to complain? Yes, he did. But he should have had the sense to realize that the refs were watching him since he and Wayne Simmonds were going after each other both verbally and physically all night. It was a stupid penalty at a time where the Rangers couldn't afford one and for a player who is really on the bubble for this roster, he is lucky EC had such a bad game
Wayne Simmonds: For a guy who was the victim of a racial taunt last night, you guys all know what happened, it appears that Simmonds called Avery an ugly homophobic slur. This has been verified by the Rangers beat reporters and Sean Avery himself. Here's the video evidence, you can read lips on this one. Doesn't have to be repeated but that's just not cool on Simmonds part
Tom Sestito: This is a textbook case for Brendan Shanahan. Sestito set the tone for an ugly first period when he came out of literally nowhere to hit Andre Deveaux square in the back at full speed to send Deveaux hard into the boards.
Closing thoughts:
This was a very uneven game to judge the talent in the lineup due to all of the special teams play in this game but with all of the hoopla surround the Winter Classic finally being announced both teams came out with a lot of emotion and played a very physical game. With the Rangers now heading over to Europe to begin a very tough road trip to say the least, this wasn't exactly the game they were expecting to play tonight.
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I don’t even think you can evaluate this game. I mean where do the Flyers find career AHL goons to take out the other teams players. I was a bit nervous about this game thinking the Flyers know the Rangers are going to Europe tonight so let’s bang up a few of their guys and make this a stupid game.
Anyone know the status of Sauer?
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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Sep 26, 2011 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 1 recs
forgot to put it
his arm was in a sling, he has shoulder soreness 5-7 days
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by Kevin Power on Sep 26, 2011 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Do you think having HBO around could’ve got the players fired up? Things got a bit out of hand on multiple occasions out there tonight. I’m not going to pretend the Flyers were innocent but it wasn’t just one-way traffic either.
Simon Gagne AND Mike Richards may move between towns, wear new jerseys and call different arenas home but, at the end of the day, they will both always be Philadelphia Flyers.
One day Sean Couturier will win the Conn Smythe. You heard it here first.
by PursuitOfLappyness on Sep 27, 2011 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
It wasn’t one way traffic, but the guy weaving into the Flyers lane over and over again was mainly good ol’ Sean
Anyway, the HBO stuff may have contributed, I think you just had a lot of bubble guys trying to, in some cases literally, fight their way on to the final rosters, and it leads to some extra juice. Throw in a rivalry that feeds on its own reputation to a degree, and you’re going to get these kind of out of control games.
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by George E. Ays on Sep 27, 2011 1:07 AM EDT up reply actions
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Michael Sauer (shoulder) and Sean Avery (x-rays negative on right big toe) both traveling to Europe with team despite injuries
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Good sign.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
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I understand Avery isn’t playing his best hockey, but what other options do we have for a 13th forward?
Putting Borque, Hagelin, Weise in that spot is a waste, and I rather have Avery than EC.
What would you guys suggest, since bashing Avery has become a very, very popular activity on this site.
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Borque and Hagelin are not ready
Weiss was invisble against top notch talent tonight. Avery should be given a chance—he is fired up and motivated—if he can channel his play from a few years ago (walking the line without crossing it and contributing offensively) then we are a go with Avery.
Never bet against a veteran professional athlete with one chance left.
Disagree about Weise being a waste, there’s not much else he’s going to do in the AHL at this point, so hanging out around the NHL club as a 13th/14th forward isn’t going to crush his development or anything. He’s basically a 4th line guy anyway, and 4th line guys get pressbox seats sometimes.
As for Avery, yeah, I don’t get the desire to exile him to CT. He’s obviously still useful to some degree. The Avery bashing, however, stems from a lot of fans, not necessarily on this site, that see him as being able to not only do no wrong, but also as this superstar forward that everyone but Sean is responsible for ‘holding back.’ With the roster developed as it has, it’s come to really be objective and realize that he doesn’t nor shouldn’t have the role that fans would want someone of his popularity to have.
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by George E. Ays on Sep 27, 2011 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
Avery
When we loved Avery: He sparked a team that had no fuse.
Now, we have a lot of sparking going on, and are dealing with another level of talent. This has become a class team, and Avery is troubled. These players help shitty teams, but won’t win you a cup.
I don’t want someone who exhibits no composure. Stupid Penalties is the thing he brings to the table now, because the energy is already there
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I thought Avery played pretty well aside from his dumb penalty
He was definitely apart of that 1st goal, he was all over the ice tonight doing little things right and playing pretty well, he even drew a penalty. Then he threw it away with that penalty then was shortly injured after that. Still though, Zuc played very well but Avery also did, just not as well as Zuc.
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seems to be a recurring comment throughout his career for almost all his games.
I thought Avery played pretty well aside from his dumb penalty
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Jagr totally schooled Erixon and MDZ
Better it should happen in pre-season than the regular season. I doubt either guy if they make the team will be out there much against Jagr in the regular season. I was very impressed by Mitchell, Thursseson and Zuke tonight. Bickel didn’t look too bad today. McD besides for a dreadful turnover was okay.
I really don’t understand how post after post people think Avery isn’t roster-worthy. I watch every game, and every game there’s only 1 person that goes into the corners and gains puck possession 95% of the time. He drew a penalty, then as far as anyone can tell, he was assessed a penalty for what, talking? It was a BS call. As much as people love Zuc, he loses the puck as soon as he’s leaned on. He’s got playmaking skills, but come to real games, he won’t look nearly as good.
Sounds like you're watching games from 2007
Avery’s played medicore Hockey in his second run here, and I’m pretty sure Zuke can score more than three goals in a year in his sleep. Zuke offers much more promise and likely offense than Avery can. With Prust and Rupp among others here Avery doesn’t have a spot in the line up. He’d be fine as the extra forward that plays 40 games a year.
by graves9 on Sep 27, 2011 12:10 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I believe he's been playing roster-worthy hockey so far this preseason
like i said above, never bet against a veteran with one last chance
His point is Avery should play over Zuke
and I disagree. Avery is fine as the thirteenth forward.
by graves9 on Sep 27, 2011 12:32 AM EDT via mobile up reply actions
I’d lock up a lot of money that says Sean’s puck recovery rate isn’t 95%, or that he’s the only that recovers pucks at whatever rate he actually does. Aside from that, BS calls or not, they’re still calls Sean is going to get hit with now.
As I also said above, I don’t get those who don’t want Sean on the roster, but I don’t think his skills are worthy of an 82 game season with him in the lineup. He’ll be valuable when the inevitable injuries hit, but for now, he’s a bit of a spare part, albeit a super popular one.
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by George E. Ays on Sep 27, 2011 1:18 AM EDT up reply actions
you know it’s kind of the same thing for MDZ you live with his defensive miscues for his offense, and we live with avery’s occasion “avery penalty” because he draws a lot of penalties for being avery…
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The problem with both is that the bad overwhelms the good right now. Avery takes 1 for everyone he draws now, whereas his first go around he was drawing 2 for every 1 taken, which is immensely more valuable.
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by George E. Ays on Sep 27, 2011 1:31 AM EDT up reply actions
he also doesn’t get the benefit of the doubt anymore… it took litterally being jumped by simmons to get a call…
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No he doesn’t, but can you honestly watch him and say he deserves the benefit of the doubt any more?
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by George E. Ays on Sep 27, 2011 1:34 AM EDT up reply actions
most of the time no he doesn’t… but the penalty to simmons wasn’t called until he was being drug to the ice… i was actually supised he didn’t get called for matching minors on that play…
I like avery’s intensity and he does have his moments of brilliance, but the league has really taken his game away and he’s useless outside being a forechecker… energy guy
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Avery has been one of the most noticeable, roster-worthy guys out there all pre-season. No one has hustled as much as him and he’s on top of his passing game. That being said, he needs to shut his mouth when it comes to the refs. Otherwise, his passion (aka he’s an idiot) is what the Rangers need if they want plenty of powerplay opportunites for Richards this year.
ALSO, how come no one is talkng about Bickel dropping his gloves and going right after him after that hit? THAT’S what we need on this team. It’s about time they stick up for eachother and stop being concerned about 2 minutes in the box.
Tim Erixon: The rookie has had a strong preseason camp thus far but today he had his first bad game as he was put on the short handed unit with Michael Del Zotto to try and stop the Philadelphia power play and more importantly try to stop Jaromir Jagr. Well, it didn’t work, Erixon often looked out of his element and would sometimes lose his coverage of Jagr which would lead to him getting good looks on the power play. While 5 on 5 and on the power play Erixon looked like the calm, confident defender we have been hearing so much about this offseason. He did however take a couple of stupid penalties when it seemed like every player was taking stupid penalties.
Michael Del Zotto: Del Zotto had a very similar game that Erixon, he showed that he’s not ready to face top competition and when he was on the ice against the Flyers best it showed. Del Zotto did look more focused on the power play and he started looking for open teammates in order to set up plays instead of rushing plays that were not there
MDZ is never ever going to face top competition… thats why we have staal and girardi or mcdonagh and sauer… like i’ve said before we can’t have 6 #1 defensemen… you have to accept that some guys have different roles… unless you find a gem in the rough aka drew doughty or a duncan keith… you either get defense or you get offense out of a guy… erixon has all of what 3 semi nhl experience… he’s not going to face giroux briere and jagr on every shift… i think when these players are analyzed you have to account for where they are going to be projected in the line up…
that like when the mets used to put endy chavez in the outfield for defensive replacement and saying that even though the mets won, a rarity i know, he was terrible cause he didn’t hit in his 1 plate appearance…
MDZ is here to provide offense from the back end on the PP and as far as I can see he did that well he’s not here to shut down ovechkin… he’s hear to man the point on the pp and get about 10 minutes of other ice time… Staals going to avg 25 mins with girardi expect close to 20 for sauer and mcdonagh that leaves 15 minutes of other time, atleast 4-6 of that will be pp time and the other 8 minutes are probably MDZ’s…
further you have to factor in that MDZ was paired with erixon… essential 2 rookies and they had to defend a 5 on 3 which is near impossible for any team…
moral… lighten up on analzying MDZ… if it was Staal out there playing like shit defensively thats one thing but MDZ… and the overall dislike for the guy is so much that when there’s a mistake on the ice people are looking to see if he was on the ice… thats borderline wade redden territory… HE’S FUCKIN 21 he’s younger than me and i make mistakes everyday….
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I agree with this. We do need to be careful on the road however, where good coaches could screw us with match-ups. There will be times when MDZ-Erixon gets matched up against the top guys, and they need to be able to hold their own for a shift or two.
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Match-ups aside, I still think that’s not your pair and you split McD and Sauer to play with these two.
The MDZ and Erixon pairing looked horrible.Beaten multiple times down low.
I’m not thrilled with the possibility we need to break up our proven 2nd pairing.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Sep 27, 2011 7:08 AM EDT up reply actions
I doubt they are both in line up for a while
If Sauer and Staal are healthy. Erixon goes down to CT on the McD Plan and MDZ pairs with Eminger on 3rd pair. Bickel sticks and watches from press box.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Sep 27, 2011 7:11 AM EDT up reply actions
so whats your view?
Splitting McD and Sauer to cover one flawed player and to rush another in the NHL before he’s ready. That will work!
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Sep 27, 2011 8:23 AM EDT up reply actions
Who are the flawless players you expect to see on the 3rd pairing?
Eminger is flawless? Bell? Bickel?
This. Del Zotto and Erixon will not be a regular season pair to start the season.
Also, people seem to think very highly of McD and Sauer. Well, if they are good D-men, then you can split them up and they will still be good. If they are only good together, then everyone is grossly overrating either one or both of them.
by NTB on Sep 27, 2011 8:12 AM EDT via iPhone app up reply actions
He will face top competition as other coaches will try to get their top line out against him (and have been doing that).
He does not have top speed so does not lead the rush from the backend.
Does not have much of a shot so he loses value on the PP point.
He has passing skill but telegraphs those passes that everyone on the ice can see it the pass coming and pick it of.
The league has adjusted to him, but he has yet to adjust. He keeps doing the same thing over and over again with the same failed result. This makes me question his mental ability to process the game.
He doesn’t have the size or strength to consistently win battles along the boards.
So from my point of view he brings very little to the table and in fact winds up being a liability. If you are going to be a defensman in the league and not play good defense you better be lighting it up on the other end…otherwise you will have a very shot career.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Sep 27, 2011 7:20 AM EDT up reply actions
well he faced tougher competition last night
because of the injuries to Staal and Sauer and I was saying that he didn’t look good against the top competition but when faced with lesser competition he was more that competent on the blue line. And I did write that he looked better on the power play because he did. I didn’t “attack” DZ I just stated what I saw from him and wrote it down
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avery is a wast
I do not see what you guys see in avery he is a wast of a spot . Just because he runs around the ice with energy dosent make him good he will not score he will continue to take bad penalties. i rather have boruque.who has out played him. what hasavery done the last few seasons not a fucking thing . players who should not make the ream avery E.C Delzotto god he looks bad. and one more thing zucs looks and is playing way better the avery in the game last night
Have to admit
Jagr looked like he was worth every penny of that contract. (yeah he was up against essentially rookie D in MDZ and Erixon, but he really did prove he is still dangerous.)
He'll do that
Until he decides he doesn’t want to play hard anymore.
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Avery Popped A Pill, I thought it was odd.
I was at this game, section 112 row 3 (Best seats I have ever had!)
After Avery took the shot off of his foot, it was obvious that it hurt. Afterwards, he got stood up with a pretty good check from Coburn. He returned to the bench and signaled for a member of the training staff. When the staff approached him, he said something in the ear of the staff member. The staff member left the bench area, and then returned a moment later. He gave Avery something. Avery then, popped a pill and used some water to swallow.
This is probably nothing, however, I don’t recall ever seeing a player pop a pill on the bench before. Any ideas on what he could be taking? Aspirin? Caffeine? ect.
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I’m sure the pill was nothing really. I am just more curious as to the legality of it.
Can a player pop a pill in a game? Regardless of what the pill is. Is this legal? It just seems strange.
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