Blueshirt Banter Discussion: Could Brandon Dubinsky's Game Finally Be Back?
by Bryan Winters on Jan 7, 2012 3:26 PM EST
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Brandon Dubinsky didn't have the greatest start to the 2011-2012 season, and people began to worry. However, over the last few games, it seems as if vintage Brandon Dubinsky is finally back.
So let's see what you guys think: Do you finally think Brandon Dubinsky's game is finally back? Or could it just be a mini hot streak.
Over the last five games, Brandon Dubinsky has registered five points and seems to have some jump back in his game. We finally saw the vintage Dubinsky in the corners, and basically winning every battle to a puck. Could it be because Dubinsky was moved up to the second line and is finally reunited with Ryan Callahan and Brad Richards?
Could there be other reasons involved why Dubinsky's game has improved? The floor is your's guys, go ahead and tell us your reasons as to why Brandon Dubinsky has improved his game so much.
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I always knew he was going to get his game back
But some of you who are already hitting the “Trade Him Right F’en Now” Button thought he was dead and done. Dubinsky was always going to get his game back and now look at him go.
Never a doubt in my mind he was going to be the Dubi of old.
It wasn’t so much “trade him right now” it was “trade him for bobby ryan”
by teknics on Jan 7, 2012 3:45 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
+1 on this….Ryan currently has 15 goals for anehiem…Getzlaf has 7…I’d still trade Dubi for Ryan in the right deal.
Absolute Worst Ranger Fan!!!!!!....yet incredibly realistic and usually correct.
Yup I still pull the trigger on that. I love watching Dubi play but if you get Ryan for the right package with Dubi as the centerpiece then I still pull the trigger on it every day and twice on Sunday.
by teknics on Jan 7, 2012 4:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ryan?
Ryan would get his Arse kicked over here in the East… 15 goals in the Western Conference, doesnt mean he’ll get 15 over here. He doesnt possess the grittiness that Dubi has. Ryan is a good player, but he is not Dubinsky. Nor is he homegrown like Dubi.
by DiehardNYRfan on Jan 7, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions
Bobby Ryan's offensive upside is a top line winger
Dubi plateaus as a solid 2nd liner…I’d trade Dubi and select others for Bobby Ryan with my eyes closed
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by Kevin Power on Jan 7, 2012 11:24 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Totally agree
Dubinsky has been great lately, and IMHO is a key ingredient to the team’s chemistry; there’s little doubt he bleeds blue. And had he skated on a line with Corey Perry and Ryan Getzlaf the past few years, in the Western Conference, his stat line would look a lot fatter.
Hope Dubi retires a Ranger in 15 years.
Sorry unrelated but VAN currently beating BOS 4-3 after being down 2-1, go VAN! lol
by teknics on Jan 7, 2012 3:44 PM EST via mobile reply actions
just watched this game too, im not afraid of boston anymore, we can beat them in fact we did with a series lead of 3-1 last season.
they are doing better this year, with the same staff
we are doing a lot better this year, with an upgraded stafff
think itll be clear who comes out on top.
i didnt get a chance to watch (work) i was following the gametracker on yahoo. Did Van outplay them or were they lucky? I think BOS style against NYR style is gonna be a close, hard fought game that will likely come down to which goalie makes the bigger saves
bruins were downright mean and physical today, marchand lined up some guy on the cancks with a over the back flip (football tackle) got 5 minutes from that, canucks scored 2 goals on that power play almost three. think they had like 12 power plays that game, the canucks that is, bruins outplayed them at even strength but not terribly, both are good teams, bruins are physical and have really offensively skilled guys on D.
honestly thomas is alright, but he can be an idiot sometimes, hes way too aggressive hank is better imo.
we got a better D then boston, they are more talented offensively though, they aren’t very unique with their scoring chances though, its almost always someone trying to float it over to another guy driving hard to the net for a tip in. I think i saw at least 20 plays like that tonight.
its going to be a fun game to watch against the bruins, but if were on our game we can definitely beat them, no problem.
Their size and toughness worries me a bit. A 7 game series against them is going to take a lot out of us. I still think we need to add a big scoring winger. Yeah I know, easier said then done.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jan 8, 2012 3:40 AM EST up reply actions
Best highlight
Is our old friend Dale Weiss going with Horton. I’d say Dale wins by decision. NHL.com full game video has the fight.
Let me know how that works out for you . . .
I'd say yes
He is back. Compete level is back up, skating hard, and pucks are going in for him. I think skating with Boyle and Mitchell helped him
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by BleedsRangerBlue on Jan 7, 2012 3:49 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Luck
Or could it just be a mini hot streak.
http://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2011/12/14/2634135/whats-wrong-with-brandon-dubinsky
Since published: 11 GP, 9 points, 4 goals. Shooting percentage from 2.4% to 6.6%. He was having HORRIBLE luck, now he’s just making some of that time up.
Career shot %? Maybe he’s still peaking to his career average which would be great and perfect timing
by teknics on Jan 7, 2012 4:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I thought that said mini hot steak
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by Brandon C. on Jan 7, 2012 5:04 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Still too early to say. My heart says yes, my head head says only worth evaluating in another 15 or so games.
by OhCallyMyCaptain on Jan 7, 2012 4:21 PM EST reply actions
dubi sauer prospect for ryan
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by -19-AgainstAll on Jan 7, 2012 4:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I’ll pass.
Not even close to worth it.
The difference between Dubi and Ryan is not Sauer and a prospect.
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I don’t care what they need.
If they want Sauer and Dubi, AND a prospect, we need to be getting something along with Ryan in return.
Our team is very solid right now. No need to make desperate decisions that are going to hurt the team.
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Every player has that point where they ease off the gas in a game
because they believe the game might not be winnable. I think it is safe to say that Dubinsky and Callahan are two players that would hold out the longest under those circumstances. They bleed blue and I would not want to trade them away for that reason. Just my opinion on the matter.
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anaheim is the worst team in the league right now, they should just take all the crap that we don’t want and be happy with it while giving us ryan in return hahaha
Feds, Wolski, Christensen, Woywittka, Erixon, and a draft pick for Ryan ftw!
Don’t feel bad if you walk by a group of ducks and they start laughing at you over that offer
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by Brandon C. on Jan 7, 2012 5:04 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions 1 recs
only for Bobby Ryan or better
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Think it is really just a matter of his shots finally going in the net. The poor guy couldn’t buy a goal a month or three ago and now he is going at the net with confidence.
Glad he is finding some goals, hope he makes up for some lost time by picking up a few multi-goal games here and there.
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Dubi is fine.
He was pressing so bad when he started off slow. He was VERY unlucky (missing wide open shots, posts, etc.). Now he’s got his swagger back and looks great.
But we still need to trade him for Booooooby Ryan.
It's like saying you dislike Don Frye's mustache, which itself is the equivalent of spitting on the Constitution. - Anthony Pace
Imagine Ryan on a line with Dubi and Cally
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by BleedsRangerBlue on Jan 7, 2012 6:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I’m fine with Ryan Richards callahan and Dubi used as bait
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by -19-AgainstAll on Jan 7, 2012 9:19 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He’s a rw if I’m not mistaken… Love to see him with Richards and cally
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by Town on Jan 8, 2012 2:05 AM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
its amazing that every body still loves a 4 mil $ third line 15 to 20 goals at best pk he should be traded
Please give an in depth analysis usibg PowerPoint as to why he should be traded. Feel free to back up your talking points wuth graphs and video clips
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by BleedsRangerBlue on Jan 7, 2012 6:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
2 nd liner! He’s an effective grinder on the second line, can lug the puck up and make people miss with his speed and, historically, can put the puck in the net. Take a hike.
by Blueshirts Rock on Jan 7, 2012 7:58 PM EST up reply actions
18 points at even strength, one less than noted 3rd liner Brad Richards.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 7, 2012 8:03 PM EST up reply actions
well yeah
If you wanna throw stats at us
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by Kevin Power on Jan 7, 2012 11:21 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Dubi is a heart and soul guy of this team, he loves being a ranger and has a tremendous amount of pride putting on the blue sweater every night.. That’s something this club has been lacking for a LONG time, in any deal I’d be pretty damn sad to see em go, that’s just my oppinion as a fan, I’ve really enjoyed watching doob grow throughout the years.
by ImMike88 on Jan 7, 2012 9:00 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
I’d also like to add that when the Ryan rumors started popping up I’d be a little nervous to pull the trigger on that deal, wouldn’t want to mess with the chemistry
by ImMike88 on Jan 7, 2012 9:03 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Not sure I agree.
If it was titled “Dubi’s scoring is back…” I might agree, but I don’t think he ever really lost his game, just his scoring. Dubi is not much more than a 2nd or 3rd liner and a great team guy anyway so I don’t think he’s really counted on for his ability to carry the team offensively.
Where were u last yr?
Dubi basically carried us cuz gaborik was nonexistent..
by nhl_legendz on Jan 7, 2012 9:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Correct me if I’m wrong, but didn’t he lead the team in pnts last yr, 24Gs 30As?
by nhl_legendz on Jan 7, 2012 9:31 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not sure what your point is...
Dubi did lead the team in goals, assists and obviously points but his 54 points is not what “carried” this team. This team was carried by very evenly distributed scoring. There was no question about “where the secondary scoring was” last season, we were asking where the primary scoring was.
Guys like Stamkos and Corey Perry CARRIED their team by scoring 20 or more goals than anyone else on their teams. These are guys that had almost double Dubi’s point total on the season.
I think it’s comical that Gabby was non-existent but Dubi “Carried” the team with 2 more goals and 4 more assists than Gabby. Exactly how many more wins did those 2 goals and 4 assists account for?
Don’t jump around when arguing with me..
Gabby gets most of the pp time, while dubi gets mostly pk time. How can u not see that when a player plays the pk and outscores ur staple on the pp, the guy is carring the slack.
by nhl_legendz on Jan 7, 2012 10:03 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
First of all, I wasn't arguing with you....
I was discussing my opinion of Dubi’s game this season and you made the statement that he “CARRIED US”. You have now changed that to “CARRYING THE SLACK”.
Secondly, I hope for a minute that you don’t think I am going to abide by your orders.
Lastly, I have to agree that Dubi was one of our forces last season but have to disagree that he carried anything. He was the point leader by a small margin on a team that had very even scoring. There was a 6 point difference between 1 and 3 and a 10 point difference between 1 and 5. Tampa Bay for example had a 19 point difference between 1 and 2.
I get it, you LOVE Dubi and that’s great. Most of us have a player we LOVE, I too am a very big fan.
Carried us???
His 24 goals carried the team? The 2 goals more than Gabby scored is what you consider “putting the team on his shoulders”??? He’s exceeded 20 goals just once in his career, last year, so let’s not pretend he’s a scoring machine. He’s a career 15 goal/season player.
His skillset is a grinding, 2 way power forward, not an elite scorer and that’s exactly what he’s done this season while slumping in the scoring department. I have no issue with his play thus far and hope that he’s found his mediocre scoring touch.
uhh
Yes, he carried the slack. He lead our team in pnts. Regardless of how many more or less, he produced above Marian Gaborik, with little to no pp time and most of his mins coming at even strength and pk.. might I add it was against higher quality competition. Hard to score when your not given the opportunity.
by nhl_legendz on Jan 7, 2012 9:47 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
So what are your expectations?
He’s on pace for about 43 points this season which is almost exactly his career average. 10 games ago he was on pace for about 38 points, 5 below his career average. His ability to put the puck in the net was a little off earlier this season and he was “snakebitten” but aside from that I had no issue with his overall game. If anyone thought Dubi is or was an elite scorer, a guy that was going to carry his team with his offensive, goal scoring ability they are mistaken. He’s a nice 20-something goals kind of guy that can be trusted to play a 2-way game. Maybe he will exceed 30, maybe he won’t.
My point is and was that I disagree with the article in that I didn’t ever think Dubi’s GAME was lost, just his scoring touch. Sorry if that point was lost in my 1st sentence that read:
If it was titled "Dubi’s scoring is back…" I might agree, but I don’t think he ever really lost his game, just his scoring.
I disagree, I think dubi was having prob the worst stretch of his career to start the season and is now finally putting it back together. I think dubi can score 30goals, is that elite, not by any means, is that a player you want considering the mins he puts in on defense and has some offense, of course. I said he carried us, that might be slightly overboard but he picked up the slack for gaborik and that the kind of player we knew he could be. Glad he’s back.
by nhl_legendz on Jan 7, 2012 10:09 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
As for what I expect from dubi, 60pnts and a shit load of defensive starts and pk time
by nhl_legendz on Jan 7, 2012 10:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
He's never reached that mark, but ok.
He’s only come within 16 points of that once but I suppose if Tort’s put him on the top line he might reach it, maybe not. I too hope he reaches 60, but until that time I hope he keeps playing the hard-nosed, 2-way game I’ve become accustomed to.
As do I bro. I just didn’t agree with you that he was playing to his potential and that he didn’t pick up the slack for us when gabby was having a rough yr.. I think if he stays on a line with cally and Richie its a very real possibility.. that’s if his scoring is here to stay. What I thought u were saying is that he’s just a streaky player, which I don’t agree with.
by nhl_legendz on Jan 7, 2012 10:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
And he was 6 pnts away from the 60 mark last yr not 16.
by nhl_legendz on Jan 7, 2012 10:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Read again my friend...
I said, “He’s only come within 16 points of that once” and YES that was last season.
His improved scoring touch last season definitely filled in for Gabby’s decline last year, but so did Boyle’s surprising improvement and I don’t think many expected 21 out of Stepan. I don’t think of Dubi as “streaky” at all, I just don’t think of him as an elite scorer. I think of him exactly as you described him, as a PK’er, a 2-way power forward that Tort’s can trust on defensive zone draws. That’s exactly how he’s been used this year, and every other. For a period while struggling to score he was moved to the 3rd line. I like Dubi and as long as he keeps grinding, battling and killing penalties I’m happy.
For what it’s worth, I would love to have Dubi on the 3rd line. We posted over and over last season that this team was heavy on 2nd, 3rd and 4th liners and light on top end talent. Now that Stepan and AA are clicking with Gabby and BR is succeeding with Cally and X on the 2nd line it seems we are a much more balanced team. If we were lucky enough to have so much top talent that Dubi was forced to the 3rd line it could only mean good things.
One last thing...
Dubi needs to hit the frigin net. How many more uncontested shots from the circle is he going to send high and/or wide?
Doubt that Ryan will be dealt.
Doubt torts would be ok with sending dubi away, he loves the guy.
If something does come to fruition, it better be worth it.
And yes, dubi is back, just in time for the grind of the season. We’ve missed you duuuuu.
LGR!!
by nhl_legendz on Jan 7, 2012 9:23 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Like torts said about Avery it doesn’t matter how nice a guy you are this is a buisness and if we were able to bag Ryan for Dubi as a centerpiece u do it. I love Dubi just as much as the next guy I mean hell before Dubi was popular I bought a 16×20 pic of him signed and framed but Dubi is not Ryan good. He’s a hard working player but we still need skill. Our whole team is made of hard workers. We need skill and Ryan & Parise(ya I said parise ) have it and if we can get it we should
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by -19-AgainstAll on Jan 7, 2012 9:42 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I can absolutely agree with you here.. I’m just saying the deal better be worth it cuz if it aint broke don’t fix it. Would love either parise and/or Ryan, but what do we lose? Dubi and junk.. deal. Dubi is a nice centerpeice but not nearly enough to land either.
by nhl_legendz on Jan 7, 2012 9:52 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
BS
We have a great core and are #1 in the league overall. WTF should we trade a heart and soul guy who has the locker room as a captive audience for a guy who might have greater skills? We are 1, enjoy the ride.
by Blueshirts Rock on Jan 7, 2012 9:55 PM EST up reply actions
There is no “might” he DOES have greater skill .
We aren’t dominating teams we are getting by and finding ways to win. With more skill we may be able to dominate on a nightly basis. Why would anyone not want that?
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by -19-AgainstAll on Jan 7, 2012 10:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Nobody doesnt want that.. I hope
But, removing peices can be risky business.
by nhl_legendz on Jan 7, 2012 10:24 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
injury?
purely speculation but i think the guy had some sort of nagging injury. not bad enough to keep him out but bad enough to affect his play. you all know how guarded torts is about injuries.
Def crossed my mind. It is a good throught tho because we started the season without Staal and quickly lost sauer and when ur d goes down u expect the forwards to contribute on defense. I won’t rule it out, but we prob won’t know about any of it until the start of 2012-2013 season.
by nhl_legendz on Jan 7, 2012 10:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Not Exactly...
I’d say his game is back yes, but it never exactly left. He’s been working hard all season, and his recent success is a product of that hard work which has never been lacking…. so being that his hard work is finally paying off in ways that actually make it onto the score sheet, one would think it is not by chance, but instead BY DESTINY
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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Jan 8, 2012 12:43 AM EST up reply actions
Man I loved Steve’s rookie season, I wish he could be able to still play like that….
by CrazyRangerFan on Jan 8, 2012 3:46 AM EST up reply actions
He’s always had his game, it’s just his luck is starting to turn around and he doesn’t have a 2% shooting percentage any longer.
Sure, I’d trade Dubi + for Ryan, but it matters what that + is.
Some proposals here are completely undervaluing our players and overvaluing Ryan. Some are the opposite way around.
The difference between the two is like 15-20 points, minus the defensive game/faceoffs/grit that Dubinsky brings. That game is by no means worth, let’s say Sauer and a prospect.
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Disagree. He was a perimeter player, not going to the hard areas. He was not protecting the puck well. Was not moving his feet at all and not getting into good position. The shots he was getting were low percentage shot hence his low shooting percentage. Then he was gripping his stick too hard because of the frustration of not scoring which meant when he did get a chance he would miss.
He has started to turn that around and his numbers are showing that. All these advances stats, while good, seem to put a lot of emphasis on luck. Players can make their own luck. While luck does play a part to a certain degree, I would say the players is playing has a more direct effect.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jan 8, 2012 3:49 AM EST up reply actions
I felt that he had a few games where he didn't play well.
But for the majority of the games I felt that he played well, just didn’t have enough strength to win one on one battles. Whether that is conditioning, or mental, I’m not too sure.
It’s one of those, he was slumping because he couldn’t score and he couldn’t score because he was slumping type of things. I’m happy he has seemed to break the cycle.
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The shots he was getting were low percentage shot hence his low shooting percentage.
He was getting as many or more scoring chances than everybody but Gaborik all season. His conversion rate just sucked.
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by George E. Ays on Jan 8, 2012 5:33 AM EST up reply actions
What’s the breakout per game from the start? There were a lot of games at the first 1/2 of the season that he was invisible. I agree he has been getting chances the past month or so but my point was that due to his poor performance at the start he was pressing and missing those.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jan 8, 2012 4:05 PM EST up reply actions
One more thing...
We sports fans frequently bemoan the lack of loyalty exhibited by pro athletes, many of whom, as free agents, will follow the money and/or what they perceive as a better opportunity to win. So I find it a bit hypocritical to advocate for a trade like Dubinsky/Sauer+ for Ryan.
As a fan, I much prefer to win or lose with homegrown talent, especially guys like Dubinsky and Sauer, who play hard night in and night out.
I prefer not to lose, period.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Jan 8, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
still at 4 mil we should be getting a 30 goal scorer not a grinder i rather have ryan. we have around 8 pluse mil tied up beyween woljet and dubie could you imagin what we could have if were able to dumb them. By the then of the year nobody would bve missing dubi. A by the way take away the empty netters no 25 goals for him .im not saying hes not a good player just not worth the money for what production he gives
What 30 goal scorer is making $4m?
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by George E. Ays on Jan 8, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
for a 30 goal scorer
4m is almost a bargain
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Where in the world are you going to find consistent 30 goal scorers for 4 million?
You need to remember that goals aren’t the only stats.
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We are first in the conference
Is Bobby Ryan really going to make this team better? Dubinsky does a lot more for the team than he does on the stat sheet. Or maybe you all would like to revert to the penalty kill we had 5-10 years ago? We should stand pat until the end of the season and then dump the deadwood on the team.
right now im pretty good with standing pat. especially until we see what wolski can do.
i dont want to trade Dubi, at all. my thing is if someone comes to you and says ill give you bobby ryan for dubi and some random shit i pull the trigger.
If a good trade can be made, by all means do it.
But forcing a trade by giving up guys like Sauer/Erixon and other good young players is just shortsighted.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
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