In Relation to Kreider

Vancouver came one game away from winning it all and are there contending for it again this year…I’d be very okay with that…and yes gabby Richards and hank will be ageing but that’s why we hold onto our young guys so that they eventually replace them or trade for a better player who doesn’t have a 7.8 mil cap hit.

A lot of assumptions there.

I can make them too. We trade for Nash, Dubi becomes 60 point player on Columbus, and Nash drops down to 60 points here. Kreider turns into a dominant power forward in the league, and the pick is solid too. Within 2 years we all want Nash bought out, and we want Sather fired.

No cups, shitty older over-payed players. We can do this all day.

Nash is on pace for 26 goals BTW, and is making $7.8 million.

You dont know that for a fact. Its hypothetical.

But trading for Nash necessitates losing one of them.

Nash is better than Richards hands down. And Richards is very good.

No one is bitching about Richards’ deal because he’s already fucking here. In 2 years people we be bitching, and we know this.

But that isn’t a reason to bring in another contract to bitch about.

And there was no guarantee that Ryan would be Ryan or Nash would be Nash; They all come from this thing you like to call a crap shoot. But yet you want players like that but don’t want to roll the dice in the crap shoot.

Yes, Buck, things that happen more than 3 weeks from now actually sitll happen.

Nash has 259G 229A 488PTS in 592 NHL games.

Nash has put up his numbers in perhaps the worst run franchise in the league, with almost zero help. He’s also younger then Gabby, and doesn’t have the injury history. It’s pretty easy to disagree that Gabby is the better player.

As far as all your contract concerns, we’ve been over them plenty, but here they come again

Derek Stepan and Ryan McDounagh are both coming off ENTRY LEVEL CONTRACTS. It’s their 1st trip into RFA, and they have no leg to stand on in negotiations. All they can do is hold out. If they hold out, they don’t get paid, they don’t get credit for a year of service, to get them closer to UFA status, and if they aren’t signed by December, they can’t play for the entire season. Our last three deals for players coming off ELC’s were all 2 year deals for roughly $2 mil per year and those were for AA, Cally, and Dubi. Step, McD, MDZ, and Hagelin’s contracts will be not be any problem to get done. Let’s all stop worrying about them.

Might I inquire as to what you’ve done with the captain? In two years, I doubt he’ll be getting paid $4.275 million (will also be an UFA)

What DO you think Cally will be getting paid? For the sake of arguement, let’s say that Cally keeps producing at the rate he’s been going this year and last year, and becomes a legit 30 goal scorer. It’s tough to project exactly what he’ll get, because the deal will be made under a new CBA, and it will depend on how teams use the new rules to beat the cap. I’d say Cally will be looking at a jump in his cap hit of about 2.5 mil tops though. His hit will probably look alot like BR’s.

Did you also cut Anisimov from the team?

No, but he could be looking at getting cut if he doesn’t step up with ice being tougher to get with Rick Nash in town. If you’ve got Nash, Gabby, and BR committed for 2 more seasons. We’ve gotta keep money for Cally, because he’s going to be a 30 goal guy looking for a nice raise on his $4.2 salary. Step and Hagelin are looking for cash too, so I’m guessing your pegging them for top 6.

I’m assuming Kreider and Dubi are gone in a deal for Nash, so we won’t put them in the mix, but that’s OK, cause there’s already 6 guys for 6 spots and JT, Christian Thomas, and a slew of other prospects looking to break into the league. There’s plenty of time and plenty of bodies to fill those holes, AA needs to show he deserves one before we worry about his raise.

Gabby will be off the books. So you replace Gabby with Nash

You’re not replacing Gabby with Nash, because Nash’s money is already accounted for under the cap. Gabby and Nash will play together for the next 2 years. If Dubi is the roster player that goes that’s $4.2 mil per year, and you can include WW and his expiring $3.8 cap hit to get the space we need to bring on Nash this season. When Gabby’s contract is over, the $7.5 per we have committed to him becomes available, and is 100% free money, to be used to hand out raises, sign FA’s or whatever the team wants to do with it.

See what happened to the Devils when they signed Kovalchuk to that 15-year/$100 million contract. They had 21 contracts and were OVER THE CAP (sorry for caps). I’d say having one too many big contracts will kill a team’s cap flexibility, wouldn’t you?

What killed the Devils wasn’t overpaying for Kovi (I think they have him at a great price) it was overpaying to retain their “homegrown talent”, namely Martin Brodeur. Marty isn’t worth anything CLOSE to $5.2 per, and sadly Lou will give it to him again if wants to come back for another season in the fall. They also overpaid for middle of the road talent like Tallinder and Greene and are still eating money on the deal they gave Colin White.

. I’d say having one too many big contracts will kill a team’s cap flexibility, wouldn’t you?

If you’re not getting the results they definatly are. Which is why Dubi and his $4.2 mil cap are being talked about as the player to send back to Columbus, and I’ve also suggested trying to send back Staal’s $4 mil cap hit to give us 2 less big contracts to deal with.