Plea To The New York Rangers: Do NOT Trade For A Defenseman
by Brandon C. on Feb 16, 2012 11:32 AM EST
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PrintThe New York Rangers rumors are swirling at an unprecedented pace this winter. Whether it's Jeff Carter, Rick Nash, Anson Carter, or anyone out there, the rumors are being talked about at an all time high rate.
News broke today that Pavel Kubina was being asked by the Tampa Bay Lightning for a list of teams he would like to be traded to. The Rangers were immediately part of the speculation for a possible destination for Kubina.
That brings me to my plea. The Rangers do NOT need a defenseman. At all.
The top six as it stands is fine: Ryan McDonagh, Dan Girardi, Michael Del Zotto, Anton Stralman, Marc Staal, Steve Eminger, and soon to be Michael Sauer, Pavel Valentenko, Dylan McIllrath, Tim Erixon, I cold go on and on but you get the point.
The Rangers not only do not need a defenseman, but they would have no usage for one at all. So, please, do not trade for a defenseman. I beg you Rangers!
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well they will if Erixon goes in a deal for Nash which Sather might do to keep Kreider out of a potential deal. I heard Dreger saying the Rangers are co-favorites if not favorites to land Nash. doesn’t mean a deal for nash will happen but it does mean the Rangers are in the thick of it.
the Rangers think nothing of Valtank. If they did then he would have been here with the rash of injuries early in the year. instead guys like Bell and Woywitka got a chance.
by Richter1994 on Feb 16, 2012 11:46 AM EST up reply actions
Kubina has an expiring contract
And is better than Steve “Eric bana looking mofo” eminger. I fail to see how for very little he can be acquired for isnt an upgrade for the rangers. I’d give a 3rd rounder and a shitty prospect for him. I don’t get why you think getting pavel Kubina could destroy the rangers, or atleast thats what you make it sound like.
HENRIK LUNDQVIST OILS LIKE HE'S GETTING A HIMMER. DO YOU?
by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 16, 2012 11:42 AM EST reply actions
All he said is the rangers dont need a defenseman
by Zuppa Di Pesce on Feb 16, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
+++++++
He is another guy ready to insert into Torts system right away.
Breaking news: Tampa Bay Lightning have traded Pavel Kubina to the New York Rangers for nothing.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 16, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
i agree too.
just because we have good defensive prospect doesn’t mean that we can’t try to upgrade our defense for this years playoffs.
Hearing rumblings that Ryan Malone is available too. Legit option or not worth it? As much as I love trades, I really don’t want this team to make one, other than for depth.
-Jonny B
by brijon24 on Feb 16, 2012 11:42 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Yup!
Malone might be a good fit but like you guys pointed out he’s not worth that type of money! I like his grit but that’s about it!
He’s got an expiring contract and a history with Torts. I could see this for a lower draft-pick. Eminger has been awful, Staal still isn’t right, and he could be a solid bottom-pair D for us. Especially if Sauer isn’t looking good. Last I heard he isn’t even skating.
If it looks like Sauer isn’t coming back, I’d be on board with Kubina.
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"Oils like he's getting a himmer!"
Kubina is an upgrade over Eminger, without question…..and he can shoot the puck as well. Wouldn’t be a bad addition for the playoff run at all. Also Torts coached him in Tampa, and knows his game well.
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by greifi griffie on Feb 16, 2012 11:47 AM EST reply actions
+ an expiring contract.
Sounds interesting for now but I know nothing about Kubina
by teknics on Feb 16, 2012 11:52 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
15 year vet of the NHL—a solid defender and above-average player for about 6 years in the NHL, now his game has slipped a bit but he is still a much more skilled player than Eminger. He won a Cup with Torts in Tampa.
You are the third poster to mention the expiring contract….did not feel like it was necessary to mention that since so many other mentions had been made.
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by greifi griffie on Feb 16, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
I think Kubina would be a good addition for a playoff run. He’s won a cup, has a big body and I think he could play a top 4 role if other guys get injured. Knowing Torts doesn’t hurt either.
rather have a healthy sauer and not give anyone up.
Shoot the puck Barry!!!
Kick save AND A BEAUTY by Giacomin!
I would rather have Chara as well but that is not happening either.
Sauer has a long history of injuries. Last season was he only season without one I think.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 16, 2012 12:36 PM EST up reply actions
And don’t forget that if Sauer comes back this season he’ll have missed a lot of games. He won’t be anywhere near his best, just look how long it takes Staal to get back to his former level.
Staal was out for a lot longer, and since Sauer already played this season it shouldn’t be as bad. Every concussion is different.
Point taken, but I still rather have Sauer.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Staal has played 19 games this year. Sauer has played 19 games this year. And IIRC Sauer missed some of training camp and pre-season.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 16, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
My point is that Sauer was playing great before his concussion. Every concussion is different, so its hard to say what will happen.
I’m fine with bringing in Kubina at the right price, but we need to be more patient.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Unfortunately there is a deadline that we have to deal with.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 16, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
I meant for Sauer in general, as in past this season. People seem to be too impatient.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Ah ok. Gotcha.
But I keep hearing people saying we should not trade for a dman, the original post for example, because Sauer is coming back. Nobody knows if that is the case and what shape he will be in IF that happens so picking up insurance isnt a bad idea.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 16, 2012 4:31 PM EST up reply actions
That’s the whole point. Eminger is shaky, Sauer isn’t even skating, and Staal is still not right. Get a cheap D guy to solidify what we have. Ultimately, I think we all want G/McD Staal/Sauer MDZ/Strawman, but it might not turn out that way. Kubina could easily play next to Staal, just need to start reigning Staal in because his pinches and rushes up the ice have been fucking AWFUL.
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"Oils like he's getting a himmer!"
I agree with this.
I was just referring to some people giving up on Sauer in the long run.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
or Sauer replaces Girardi when he goes to UFA and Mcilrath moves up to Sauers spot.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 16, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
Yeah, I was saying that as well.
So basically we all agree.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 16, 2012 4:57 PM EST up reply actions
Right
Even though things are going great for the Rangers NOW doesn’t mean that guys may regress or won’t get back to where they were this season (like Staal). If nothing else, getting Kubina is a depth move. I’d take a healthy Sauer over him too, as said above…but that ain’t realistic right now.
by NastyNate82 on Feb 16, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
long history? last year was his first full year in the nhl. he played 3 games in 08-09 with rangers + 64 with the wolf pack, in 09-10 he played 42 games with the pack.
Shoot the puck Barry!!!
Kick save AND A BEAUTY by Giacomin!
He was injured in the pack, that’s his history. From what I recall he was hurt frequently and for long stretches.
by teknics on Feb 16, 2012 2:10 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
2006-07: Michael Sauer spent quite a bit of his junior hockey career recovering from injuries. It was only in his final season that he played almost the entire year
2007-08: During the season, he missed games due to post-concussive symptoms, as well as a knee injury, which required surgery,
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 16, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions
exactly...
i would rather have Mark Staal revert back to his old self, Sauer be healthy, and Erixon develop into a top pair guy by tomorrow, but we have to operate in reality.
reminds me of McCabe, who was awful and provided no value.
Shoot the puck Barry!!!
Kick save AND A BEAUTY by Giacomin!
trade for defenseman
Do not disagree with premise of analysis although do not believe that Steve Eminger has been contributing to the overall defensive excellence of the Rangers. Just watching the last few weeks of needless penalties, repeated giveaways and consistent trouble moving puck out of own end has been rather obvious. Also agree with previous posts of expiring contract, better than average shot and previous familiarity with coach for Kubina. All trades at deadline depend on additional issues as locker room presence/team attitude, etc. and with a team as confident and playing as well as they against weighing depth for injuries and the season long haul vs. sticking with the long range plan, cap space, contracts etc. Let me finish with have we forgotten what we looked like in the playoffs last year without Callahan. So basically agree if depth is needed anywhere it is to an offense that can use an added boost as well as prepare for possible injury.
Agreed!!!
I totally agree with this post! Why would the Rangers need another defenseman? Honestly its been a tight group from the get go and team chemistry is at a all time high! Lets not go back to the old Ranger way of trading youth for a slumping super star that may or may not help the overall team! If a trade is made in the next couple of weeks I hope Sather is looking at the Hartford Whale for players to get rid of!!! Kubina aint worth the loose change in my pocket which is about .45 cents….. Either is Nash for the price they are asking!!! LOL -22 says alot about being a team player!!!
are you comfortable with eminger/woywitka or possibly stu bickel as our 6th d-man? i understand they may not play huge minutes but come playoff time i wouldnt mind kubina as a verteran d-man who can solidify the bottom pairing.. and give us another guy at the point. he’s not gonna cost much. and LOL at your assumption for nash not being a team player.
Again it all depends on what we have to give up.
If its Valentenko, sure. if its more, no.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I believe the man's name is
Stu Pickles…
by NastyNate82 on Feb 16, 2012 10:16 PM EST up reply actions
Sauer
soon to be? really? what’s the word? eminger out, sauer in? really? SOLID ROCK.
Shoot the puck Barry!!!
Kick save AND A BEAUTY by Giacomin!
Last I heard there’s still no timetable for sauer
by teknics on Feb 16, 2012 12:32 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
To me this is the equivalnce of ’ Sather please trade for Nash’ post.
I cant understand how anyone is comfortable going into the playoffs with Eminger/Woy/Bickle playing prominent roles.
5 of our 7 defensemen have a COMBINED total of 15 playoffs games played. That is total for all of the 5 combined. I don’t even know if it can be found but I am very confident no team has won the cup with such an inexperienced group. And even if there was I doubt they would be on the same skill level of those three.
No clue where you are getting Sauer coming back, nothing we have seen even says he is working out. Even if he started working out now, which he isnt, it would be weeks before he would be back with only a month left to get back in game shape. And even if that did happens, which I seriously doubt at this point you are 1 injury away from being back in the same problem.
Out of all the moves to help this team in the post season, a defensmen makes the most sense and the most need.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 16, 2012 12:32 PM EST reply actions
Pavel Valentenko? Soon to be here?
by KingHenrik on Feb 16, 2012 12:32 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Mark my words, Tenk will never play a game with us. He is too slow for our system.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 16, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
He’s going to Toronto.
Schenn deal is still in the works.
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Seriously why are we talking about Rick Nash here
I wouldn’t mind Kubina taking over Eminger’s spot.
IMO Eminger isn’t making the roster next year, i would feel bad getting rid of him as we are serious contenders this year for all the work we put him, but this is a business and we SHOULD get rid of him BECAUSE we are serious contenders.
sorry:"
“For all the work he put in with the Rangers up to this point”
by rain-g-errs on Feb 16, 2012 12:43 PM EST up reply actions
because if the rangers trade a D (MDZ or Erixon) as part of a package for Nash then it changes the depth on D and it will change what Brandon said here. it’s relevant.
by Richter1994 on Feb 16, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
thats the whole reason why we should make that trade. mid-low pick and/or mid-low prospect.
i don’t understand how people are comfortable with eminger/bickel/woywitka over a veteran whos play under torts and won a cup under torts.
I happen to like Emy a lot. he played really well before getting hurt. he’s obviously rusty now. Kubina to the rangers makes a lot of sense.
by Richter1994 on Feb 16, 2012 12:53 PM EST up reply actions
He has been better then people expected but he is still not more than a 6th/7th jouneryman defesmen.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 16, 2012 1:04 PM EST up reply actions
Tweets out there that Kubina being held out of practice and games until traded to keep him from getting hurt. could be true.
yep, TB protecting their trade chip it appears.
by Richter1994 on Feb 16, 2012 12:52 PM EST up reply actions
We're the best defensive team in the league,
I don’t understand why this convo is even being had. I mean I understand, but I think it’s ridiculous. If we have to talk trade, let’s talk firepower, not defense.
Conveniently, Kubina carries a $3.85 mil cap hit
Something tells me, if this happens, WW is going from the tub to the beach
Nope. WW is being saved for a bigger fish. The Rangers can take on his cap hit, according to capgeek.com. If say Eminger or Woywitka were sent back, the Rangers would end up with about $700k left in cap space.
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That's a shame
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by BuckarooClub on Feb 16, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
so
were not trading for Weber
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 16, 2012 1:01 PM EST via Android app reply actions
I disagree
You can never have too much defensive depth. We’ve been rotating the ultimate scrub squad in the 6th d-spot all year with Eminger, Woywitka, and Bickel. There’s no telling when Sauer will be back, or if he will be back at all this year. Staal could take a head shot at any time and be out like Crosby. Girardi and McD block tons of shots and they could catch one in a bad spot.
Point is, if it comes down to game 7 in a playoff series, I’d rather be able to rely on a grisly vet with playoff experience than one of our revolving door extra defensemen.
I have to agree with this reasoning. Our defense is YOUNG and our STYLE of defending (i.e. blocking tons of shots) makes us more vulnerable than other teams of sustaining injuries. If it doesn’t cost too much, bring him in.
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by Stepan the Ice! on Feb 16, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Philly
Lets not forget about the flyers as a possibility. Their defense(and goaltending for that matter) has been shaky since pronger was first hurt. Kubina could fit nicely there….not saying I wouldn’t want him…but let’s not forget that glen actually knows what he’s doing and knows we need offense.
by inHANKweTruST on Feb 16, 2012 1:52 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I can't wait until this deadline passes....
Very tired of reading these rumor articles.
Talk to you guys after deadline.
Discussing rumors is like a rocking chair….it gives you something to do but gets you no where.
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-Yogi Berra
Why Not?
Kubina is a good player. He’s obviously an improvement over Eminger and Bickel and certainly could help us in the playoffs.
by Guess Who's Back? on Feb 16, 2012 2:41 PM EST reply actions
Agreed but dont want him if it costs us getting a scorer need a scorer more
by DieselCane22 on Feb 16, 2012 2:42 PM EST up reply actions
he could actually solidify the last d-man spot and help the powerplay.. that could help our scoring…
maybe. I would rather just get a scorer like Whitney. The D is fine as it is and has given up the fewest goals in the league. Your final pair D dont play much in the playoffs anyway.
by DieselCane22 on Feb 16, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
We probably
Would be able to get both Kubina and Whitney. Whitney would cost us nothing.
by Guess Who's Back? on Feb 16, 2012 3:08 PM EST up reply actions
Phoenix is making a push for the playoffs
They’re not trading Whitney or Doan.
I have a man-crush on Anisimov
Every time McDonagh plays a game in a Rangers jersey, a Canadiens fan sets a car on fire.
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But they're in a playoff position
You know the guys in Phoenix aren’t like “come on boys, lets get into the playoffs so we get knocked out of the 1st round”, when you’re in the playoffs, you just gotta believe and take it game by game. Don’t sleep on any team in the playoffs, it’s a whole new season, anything can happen. Remember Montreal a few years ago? Also the Flyers in that same year? Oilers in the year after the lockout? Any team has a chance if they’re in.
Plus, the guys in Phoenix wanna stay there, making a playoff push helps their cause.
I have a man-crush on Anisimov
Every time McDonagh plays a game in a Rangers jersey, a Canadiens fan sets a car on fire.
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i'm all for whitney
but phoenix is still in the hunt and i doubt they’ll trade anyone.
As long as the price isn’t too cheap I’m absolutely in favor of this. He can help the PP, and solidify that 6 spot.
If Sauer can’t come back, Kubina takes his spot. If he can come back, than Kubina is taking Stralman’s spot. Not sure how much of an upgrade that it,
but the depth is absolutely worth it, as long as we don’t have to give up much.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Much as in nothing. Your ROI here is minimal IMO.
by DieselCane22 on Feb 16, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
Here’s my thing. If Sauer can’t come back…
Kubina replaces Eminger. There’s a gap there.
And if there’s another injury, Kubina replaces Bickel. There’s an even bigger gap there.
As long as it’s cheap, I’m game.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
No reason not to do it if it’s cheap enough. Depth can never be overrated, and with Sauer not even skating, can’t guarantee he’ll be back and in full-game functionality for the playoffs.
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"Oils like he's getting a himmer!"
If Sauer isn't even skating right now
he’s not likely to come back soon….there’s about 8 weeks left in the season. If he comes back with 5-10 games left, how good do you think he’ll be? I don’t think Staal has been terrible, but he hasn’t been Staal-like either.
I agree with you, I like the deal if it doesn’t cost too much. Just don’t put too many eggs in that Sauer-coming-back basket.
by NastyNate82 on Feb 16, 2012 10:20 PM EST up reply actions
Thinking the same exact way
I don’t mind getting a defensemen over the trade deadline, but only if we don’t have to give up good pieces and also as long as the contract doesn’t screw us over in a year or 2.
I have a man-crush on Anisimov
Every time McDonagh plays a game in a Rangers jersey, a Canadiens fan sets a car on fire.
"I'm not a screamer or yeller. If I would try to scream and yell at people, it's not what I'd naturally do. So if I tried to do that, it would be awkward, I think." - Eli Manning
Whens the deadline over?
No offense but Im getting bored of all this wondering and waiting? These trade talks are getting nuts.
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 16, 2012 3:12 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Thanks
"It's far from done, but we did get something accomplished."-#19 B.Richards
by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 16, 2012 3:16 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Which bring me to a completely off topic question
Shouldn’t we be training a successor to Lundqvist? Should Biron be resigned ? Should we be giving some younger kid some time next season or something to get his feet wet. Hows that work?
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 16, 2012 3:15 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
lundqvist is only turning 30 i think he has at least 3-5 good years left. he said he wants to retire a ranger. as far as biron goes id re-sign him for another year or two. i wouldnt stress too much about finding a successor now.
3-5 years isn’t that long. Wouldn’t it be nice to see who’s out there. I dont want us to be phili or these other crap goal tending teams.
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 16, 2012 3:25 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
3-5?
Try 8 to 10 more good years left
by Guess Who's Back? on Feb 16, 2012 4:17 PM EST up reply actions
In the next few years I’m sure Gordie Clark will have us pick up a project-type of goalie (probably a late-round guy like Lundqvist was) and start working him through the ranks. Goalies with a lot of development time usually pan out better than guys thrown to the wolves.
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Well if it was Weber coming back in return I wouldn’t mind.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 16, 2012 3:17 PM EST up reply actions
McD>Weber for me at this point. Money-wise, McD will get a raise after next year, but it still won’t be Weber money (which will most likely be 7m+). If anything, Staal would go in a deal like that because McD is younger, cost-controlled, and has the potential to be something special. Moving Staal or Girardi would be better money-wise, but I’d rather stay out of the D market (it’s going to be insane).
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most people don’t realise we have Brian leetch in disguise on our team
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 16, 2012 3:35 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Easy with that. Leetch was 100 point scorer. Mcdonagh would be lucky to sniff half of that and no where enar the skater Leetch was. He is good though.
by DieselCane22 on Feb 16, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
There’s never going to be another Leetch. But McD could probably reach Ryan Suter level as his ceiling.
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I wouldn’t say no where near the skater – I’m a huge Leetch fan, but McD has some wheels. It’ll be tough to make the comparison given the completely different styles the team played while each was playing. Leetch was given all the freedom he wanted to join the rush while McD is reined in a bit. I will say that Leetch was one of the best PP QBs ever so McD has a long way to go there.
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Leetch also stickhandled and passed like a center. MCD is will be awesome for us. hes nowhere near Leetchs talent. Leetch is arguably the best american born player ever. McD has a long career but he wont be that.
by DieselCane22 on Feb 16, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
he also gave us the draft pick that became sauer….so its all relevant
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 16, 2012 3:54 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
In my mind, he is the best. Agreed – lofty comparison but that’s the nature of the sports world – compare promising talent to the best ever. Not fair but it’ll still be done. Whatever happens, McD was a great pick up for this team now and in the future.
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Totally. Gomez turned into McD thats a miracle in and of itself.
by DieselCane22 on Feb 16, 2012 4:46 PM EST up reply actions
Definitely. That water-into-wine shit doesn’t hold a candle to Gomez-into-McDonagh. It’s like turning shit into ice-cream.
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No D-man is every hitting 100 again. Equivalent these days is probably closer to 70 or so (without actually looking)
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by George E. Ays on Feb 16, 2012 4:27 PM EST up reply actions
It Will Be Sooooooo Nice, at Some Point Today . . .
. . . to banter about the game tonight, how interesting the matchup is — because of how desperate the Black Hawks are, how dangerous they can still be, how they give up waaaaay too many goals but can outscore anyone on a given night, and how with that possibility Torts is going with Biron.
Oh and, lest I forget, it’ll be nice to marvel how gorgeous those Chicago unis are.
Look, Biron is going to get starts, and with all the good teams we’re playing, he’s going to get one of them. Henrik’s having by and far his best season, and one of it not the BEST season of any goal-tender this year. You can attribute it to many things, but a healthy Biron getting starts to give Henrik extra rest is definitely one of them.
I don’t even give a shit if Biron loses a game here and there, because it’ll mean that Henrik will be rested enough to win the next 6-7.
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I Don't Disagree, Cae
But next game is Sunday vs. CBJ. If Hank were to play tonight, and Marty on Sunday, 30 could have four days off before PIT on Tuesday.
Eh, that’s the breaks. This team isn’t desperate for points right now, so it’s not like we need to start Hank tonight. Let him have an easy game against CBJ (could even give Biron another start), he’s earned it.
Can also think of it this way: if Biron gets lit up by the Hawks, it means we can resign him even cheaper in the off-season :-)
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Hart
I was watching the Pens game last night…and they’re trumpeting Malkin for the Hart (as they do in every game…and rightly so), but the conversation turned to Lundqvist and his name as a Hart. And I’m not sure if I heard dumber arguments come from announcers….“he’s a goalie they shouldn’t be eligible, Fleury and Howard have more wins, Marty Biron’s had a great year.” There are arguments against Hank as the Hart winner…and they managed to pick the most incoherent arguments out there.
by NastyNate82 on Feb 16, 2012 10:26 PM EST up reply actions
It's Pittsburgh
what do you expect when they compare Fleury to Lundqvist.
by rain-g-errs on Feb 17, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
Best uniforms in pro sports in my opinion
"You got a ring? I got two." Justin Tuck
For the empty net, Mark Messier... do you believe it?! Do you believe it?! He said we will win game 6 - he has just picked up the hat trick!
Actually first I ever got was Chris Chelios in the old away uniform (colored). Part of my original-six collection. Chel-Leet-Lid-Bork, Tor and Mtl were blank, since I didn’t like any of their D.
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If only teams wore dark on the road again
Who do we have to thank for that? I’m blaming Bettman.
by NastyNate82 on Feb 16, 2012 10:27 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
No need for a defenseman. We have 5 top 4 defenseman in Staal, Danny g, McD, MDZ, and Sauer. Add woywitka, Bickel or eminger and were good. We also have 7 top 6 forwards (Cally, Gabby, Richie, Stepan, Anisimov, Hagelin, and Dubinsky) so i don’t see the imaginary need to add that top 6 forward either.
well sauer isn’t playing for the forseeable future… that puts you back to 4…? kubina is better than woywitka bickel and eminger.
In the playoffs you mostly use 4 anyway. Your 5th and 6th D see about 6 minutes per game.
by DieselCane22 on Feb 16, 2012 5:18 PM EST up reply actions
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 16, 2012 4:59 PM EST via mobile reply actions
Here we go TRADE TALK TIME !
Everyone and torts for ryan !
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 16, 2012 5:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the boobies!
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Looking at this from wrong POV
For the NYR the problem is not going with Bickely Wookie and Stralman as bottom pairings but rather knowing that the NYR can’t keep playing Girardi/McDonagh 27-29 minutes a game.
Not to mention this shot blocking addiction Girardi has playing with fire as you can’t keep blocking shot and not eventually pay the price with a broken bone.
Erixon is discovering the NHL is way harder than Modo Sweden which kicked him in the old confidence hard. Valentenko needs rocket engines on his skates to keep up.
If the NYR can get someone who can eat minutes then they have to explore it.
by theprospectpark on Feb 16, 2012 5:00 PM EST reply actions
Sather aint getting any younger....
Just some food for thought. Glen sather isnt getting younger and his window for winning a cup may be different than the fans. If he sees a chance to put players on this team that will win him a cup he may well pull the trigger. This year the Rangers are very cose, maybe even talented enough to take it all. That said I wouldnt be surprised to see Slats make a big move. However- it may well be one that no one sees coming as his style.
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by RangerFanInChicago on Feb 16, 2012 5:19 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
This is a very interesting angle and I think it has alot of merit.
by DieselCane22 on Feb 16, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions
Hm…
I haven’t thought about that perspective. Very interesting.
Rec’d!!
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
Completely off topic… anyone know who is starting in goal for us?
by Ranger McJersey on Feb 16, 2012 5:30 PM EST via mobile reply actions
That sucks not because biron sucks (which he doesn’t) I just prefer hank when im at the garden… but no worries thank you diesel… and you LET’S GO RANGERS!!!
by Ranger McJersey on Feb 16, 2012 5:40 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
RIP Gary Carter
Completely off subject, but Gary Carter passed today. I am going to my first game at MSG in like 5 years and I am not even enthused. RIP.
by Eastversewest on Feb 16, 2012 5:51 PM EST via mobile reply actions
One of the great people in the world. A gentleman, a great ballplayer. Modeled my catching style and batting stance like his in my little league and high school baseball days.
Rest In Peace, Kid.
"Life moves pretty fast. If you don't stop and look around once in a while...you'll miss it." Ferris Bueller (1985)
I'd prefer to see Hank vs the stuggling Hawks and Marty against the BlowJobs...err Blue Jackets
I have a man-crush on Anisimov
Every time McDonagh plays a game in a Rangers jersey, a Canadiens fan sets a car on fire.
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Wheres are keys to the game thread. someones slacking
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 16, 2012 6:27 PM EST via mobile reply actions
*our
"It's far from done, but we did get something accomplished."-#19 B.Richards
by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 16, 2012 6:27 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
I’VE SAID IT BEFORE I’LL SAY IT AGAIN. WE DO NOT NEED TO MAKE A DEAL. WE CAN BEAT ANY TEAM IN THIS LEAGUE. IF IT AIN’T BROKE, DON’T FIX IT!
nobody cares what u have said in the past or will say again in the future.
Typing in all caps very much takes away from your credibility, and there are probably 8 other teams with the “if it aint broke” mentality. There aren’t going to be 8 cup champions. By all means, cry your head off now about how good we are and then cry like a gay boy in the offseason when we go out in round 1 to the caps in the 1/8 matchup because we couldn’t score any goals.
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