Adding Firepower: Who Should The New York Rangers Target At The Deadline?
by Kevin Power on Feb 2, 2012 9:00 AM EST
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It's February which means that the All Star break is behind us, the playoffs are in front of us and that also means that the trade deadline is coming up on February 27th. Its a frantic time of year where it seems like everyone and their mother who has an internet connection is coming up with another trade rumor.
And while the Rangers may be in first place (as of the time of this writing) we all know that they are far from being the perfect team, no team is perfect no matter what their fanbases tell you. Everyone has their idea of where they want the team to improve.
So we here at Blueshirt Banter will be bringing you a weekly feature on where we think the Rangers should improve and who they should target as the deadline approaches.
When I look at this Rangers team I see a great goaltender, a young and solid defensive corps and an offense that is just not quite there yet. This is the area I think the Rangers really need to improve if they really want to be a Cup contenders. This team already has the top flight sniper and elite playmaker and have the players to make up a solid top offensive line.
After that though, they have a lot of pieces but no real secondary scoring line and that is where the Rangers need to address.
Take a jump with me and check out my list of probable targets.
Please note: These are just ideas of players the Rangers could go after. This is nothing official just spit balling here
1. Dustin Penner
Yeah, I know, I know. He's a shell of his former self and has really dropped off in production the last two years and apparently can't eat pancakes correctly. However, I still think that Penner would be a great addition to a Rangers team that forechecks aggressively and could use a big body that can put the puck in the net (he has scored 30+ goals before). I think that Penner could really do for a change in scenery and has too much history in the Western Conference and a trade to the Rangers could be what picks up his game.
2. Bobby Ryan
A really long shot, but I think that Glen Sather could use his Jedi Mind Powers to try and get Bobby Ryan without selling the farm for Ryan. We all know what Ryan brings to the table, offensive talent up the wazoo, strong on the puck and his skates and young to boot. A pipe dream to be sure, but its always nice to dream ain't it?
3. Brenden Morrow
Actually not as far fetched as some might think, Morrow is a solid offensive winger who has a nose for the net, can put up 25+ goals and is another veteran presence in the locker room. Also, he's played with Richards before and the chemistry they have could be beneficial if a deal is made. Although I do not think that the Stars are willing to deal their captain if they are still close to the playoff hunt.
4. Brad Boyes
With the Sabres toiling in the basement of the Eastern Conference, we could see Buffalo being sellers at the deadline with Boyes being a cheap diamond in the rough, a Dustin Penner-like player, Boyes is a big, burly forward who goes to the net and knows how to finish. Just seems to be inconsistent at times but playing with guys like Callahan and Stepan can really create havoc for opposing defensemen.
5. Mikhail Grabovski
The real dark horse in all the trade deadline craziness. If Burke really is shopping Grabovski around I would love for the Rangers to get involved on the very talented center who can also slot over to the wing if need be. The Toronto media is talking Grabovoski down as a third line center, and if the Rangers can somehow get Grabo from the Leafs for relatively cheap (Burkie loves Americans and Dubi is from Alaska right?) then they should jump at this.
Well those are my five potential targets for the Rangers to go after at the deadline and I know that a lot of you guys would laugh at some of these guys on the list, I'd like to hear who you guys would like the Rangers to see go after going down to the deadline.
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If we can get the Boyes from last night, I’m all over that. He was a force from start to finish.
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Yeah. We discussed a while back and the question was ‘what happened to him’. After watching last night I really have to ask again, ‘what happened with him’?
Has he been playing like that all year and just snake bitten? Because like you said, he was a force.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 2, 2012 9:10 AM EST up reply actions
We don't need another Chris Higgins
First, let him find the anti-venom.
by It may HAVE to Last a Lifetime on Feb 2, 2012 9:37 AM EST up reply actions
He's shooting 4%.
I’m willing to gamble that won’t last. I was also willing to gamble that Higgins’ woes wouldn’t last, but then again that took two years to be correct, and still isn’t fully so.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 10:14 AM EST up reply actions
He also mostly plays on the fourth line and power play.
OPERATION TANK IS A GO. It’s the only explanation for Mike Weber. He’s on a secret mission.
Higgins or Boyes?
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 10:38 AM EST up reply actions
assuming Higgins, since he’s in Vancouver….
by CrazyRangerFan on Feb 2, 2012 11:43 AM EST up reply actions
He has 3 goals 9 assists in 38 games played
Carl Hagelin has 1.5 times the points in 7 less games played… lol
maybe buffalo just doesn’t have much chemistry this year.but it doesn’t necessarily mean Boyes will be able to find chemistry with any of our guys..
He has almost identicaly stats to Brian Boyle offensively lol
boyle has played a few more games but lol
He showed good speed and wasn’t afraid to shoot.
The guy isn’t too far removed from 40 goals but I just don’t think he is worth the risk. What the hell would the asking price be on a guy like that?
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I figure not a lot, that’s why I’d be willing to gamble on him. Guys like him and Penner you might even get away just swapping Wolski for them, hoping for a ‘change of scenery’ thing for both guys.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
I figured that might be hoping for too much.
I would do Wolski for Boyes. Though, we should probably tell Buffalo that the whole “change of scenery” thing hasn’t worked for Wolski in his time in New York.
I’d rather avoid Penner and his contract.
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To Wolski’s defense, he had only 30 games or so last season with us, and this year he was never really given a chance because he was injured for a while and we played fantastic so he never got back in the lineup. But he also never really showed us anything more than a flash of skill here or there the times he was in the lineup.
by CrazyRangerFan on Feb 2, 2012 1:42 PM EST up reply actions
The guy can’t get out of the hot tub. I don’t blame him either… I wish I was in a hot tub right now, fucking colds are brutal.
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Ha
Though, we should probably tell Buffalo that the whole "change of scenery" thing hasn’t worked for Wolski in his time in New York.
Same went/goes for Boyes time in Buffalo lol
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If we were to somehow acquire this guy, he could bring a veteran presence and a bomb from the blueline. this might also help our struggling PP. sigh
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we had him last year
he did not help the PP, is this a serious response lol?
He really didn’t get a good shot at it. Our team is so much better now I bet he could do something. As long as he has continued training otherwise by now he prob would skate like he’s got cement on his shoes.
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 2, 2012 10:14 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He really didn’t get a good shot at it.
Huh?
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 10:15 AM EST up reply actions
He wasn’t here very long. Everyone complains b rich hasn’t been here long enough and that’s a bit of the excuse why he’s not clicking much so how r we to expected McCabe to do the same. Did we do better when he was on the team? Pp wise?
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 2, 2012 10:43 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
#‘s sir ur good at that :-) if I’m wrong ill admit it lol
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 2, 2012 10:44 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
He’s only 36 not terribly old …lolol
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 2, 2012 10:47 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
I probably have it in the archives somewhere, not handy. Caerid’s comment below is pretty accurate, IIRC.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 10:50 AM EST up reply actions
So if we really don’t want to lose anyone or spend a lot we could get him and just make sure he fires more often and that should work on paper right haha
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 2, 2012 11:13 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
obviously not! :)
i was just re-living the blueshirt banter experience circa one year ago. i remember that most were pretty excited about his potential movement to the rangers. i think we now realize that our power play problems go way beyond a hard shot from the point.
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B.Ryan… i really think we need another player that can seriously score or is at least a threat in nightly basis….
It will take a ton to get Ryan. I can easily see them overpaying for a player like him.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 2, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
I disagree
I don’t think the Rangers will overpay for anyone. Sather has shown discipline thus far, no reason to stray from that path while in first place. Ryan will only come to New York in a very reasonable deal.
top 3 prospect/good roster player/2nd round pick is a FAIR price. If that doesn’t get it done, it’s not going to happen.
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ryan looks like a little bitch
a little grittier then wojtek failski but definitely more offensively talented, frankly i doubt he could survive in our system…
he would probably get a ton of pressure to perform this being NY, and it would screw him up since hes still young.
bad choice
I think we're in a position to take a risk on him.
I think the leadership is strong enough on the rangers that he will buy into the system once he gets here. He knows he has a chance to win the cup if he comes here.
The best part about Ryan is he’s cost controlled. By the time he’s up for a 7 mil cap hit, gaby will be gone and kreider (hopefully) will be entering his prime and cost controlled.
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or gaby will be back
at a smaller cap hit (but I think a team like Toronto or Montreal will overpay for him when he becomes a UFA)
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I would hope so
he would be a great player to have around at 4-5 mil on the second line…but I can see another team offering him a dumb contract that he can’t refuse.
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What I mean to say is that if he does get traded, it will probably be an overpay. But I tend to agree that the last few years of Sather would suggest that he isn’t going to cash all his chips in just yet.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 2, 2012 10:20 AM EST up reply actions
What the powerplay could really use is a solid PP QB with a rocket shot… and no, not the passed-his-prime version we got at last year’s deadline. I know it’s a one-in-a-million shot, but if the Preds decide they can’t keep Weber, THAT’S where priorities should lie.
Pierre McGuire needs to go away.
by MartyEqualsPansy on Feb 2, 2012 9:34 AM EST reply actions
The Preds are fighting for the Central division. Why would they trade Weber?
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 2, 2012 9:39 AM EST up reply actions
Im pimping BoobBoom Garrison.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 2, 2012 1:19 PM EST up reply actions
What this board need is some sort of minimum hockey IQ quota before posting.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 2, 2012 1:18 PM EST up reply actions
I think the Rangers have a strong enough lockerroom/coach
to bring in a guy of questionable attitude as (I heard) is the case with B. Ryan. If sather can pull off a good deal I’m all for it.
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 2, 2012 10:10 AM EST via mobile reply actions
if we can get someone to shoot the puck on net from the point
and Dustin Penner to stand in front of the Goalie we would be a lot more successful on our power play, Girardi/Del Zotto/MacDonaugh miss the net more then i can imagine, Staal too but mostly girardi hahah
Girardi doesn't always shoot on net
He purposefully shoots wide sometimes to force the puck to bounce to the other side of the net. If most of the defenders are on the right side, bouncing the puck like that (hopefully) to the left side winger can generate a scoring chance while the PKers recover. You can tell when he’s aiming for the net, he doesn’t miss often when that is his intention.
Ditto the McDonagh overtime goal in Calgary from October…
by CrazyRangerFan on Feb 2, 2012 12:54 PM EST up reply actions
Just to make it easier on folks Kevin, I suggest posting up their current contract status as well, because that’s a major key to making deadline acquisitions.
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that would have been a good idea
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helpful…really
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
The proof is in the… pudding.
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Z. Parise
He’s going to realize the devils blow and they have no future for at least 10 years. He’s gritty and gets the rebounds. He’s a great add on and the Devils wing be able to afford him lol
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 2, 2012 10:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Gotta make it happen somehow. U get what you pay for now a days. You want to get lucky and stick with your own and see if they can pick up the slack then that’s good but if you want the best talent you have to spend a little .
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 2, 2012 10:23 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
that's why I like bobby ryan
he’s at a relatively cheap at a cap hit (around 5 mil) for a player that can score around 70 points. The rangers can manage that.
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For every reason I hear about trading for him, it’s another reason why Anaheim WON’T trade him. I just don’t see it unless there’s a gross overpayment.
ha good point
I do not think it’s likely at all, but he’s a guy Sather should be really looking into and seeing what he can swing. We don’t want to acquire any more WW that will be hanging around int he press box with a cumbersome cap hit. If we can’t land a guy like ryan, we should just stand fast.
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It’s just a hard decision to make. There both pretty awesome
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 2, 2012 10:38 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
Ryan costs your players, picks and prospects.
Parise wont. Or at least not even close to above..
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 2, 2012 10:39 AM EST up reply actions
Ryan costs us players directly
but Parise would cost us players indirectly. If we signed him, we would have to let a few of our young guys go when they were up for bigger contracts
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If Parise is a real target, I think we’d get him and trade Dubinsky and his contract for picks/prospects or something. Parise gets around 7m, it’s really only an extra 3 against the cap, leaving enough to re-sign guys in the next 2 years.
Our only saving grace is that we have a good deal of younger guys who are still under RFA status for a few more years. McD/MDZ/Hags/AA/Stepan (I’m not sure about Sauer, I think he’s 1 year left to UFA?) so we have a little bit of built-in cost control.
yeah i don't know the figures
but I guess redden’s contract coming off the books will help a ton…Wolski too.
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Redden’s contract only really helps in that it will free the summer overage to give us a lot more manueverability then. In season he doesn’t matter.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions
Exactly, we are pretty cost controlled for the next few years. Unless the cap comes down a lot we have enough room.
Just with this off season you have WW, Avery and past of Drury buyout gone. And with Parise Dubi and his 4.2 is expendable.So you sign Parise and even get prospects and/or picks for Dubi to continue the influx of cost controlled players.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 2, 2012 1:25 PM EST up reply actions
Devils have never trade with the Rangers. I don’t expect them to send a franchise cornerstone over to the Rangers.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 2, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
Never gonna happen since Sweet Lou already said he’s not trading Parise
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I think the talk was mostly around signing him as FA.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 3, 2012 4:08 AM EST up reply actions
we need a power forward
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I’d prefer a point guard.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 10:21 AM EST up reply actions
what about a…uh…shooting guard?
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fuck that he can barely stand up let alone walk or skate
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hahaha touche
but we could use like a Lucic, Byfuglien, Geurin, Franzen/Holmstrom type guy. Just going off the past few cup winners. Boyle was (sorta kinda) there last year when he was scoring. but those are the guys that make the difference
then again, i’m old school and this is the new nhl
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Well, this goes back to the whole Dubinsky thing. He’s supposed to be that guy.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 10:40 AM EST up reply actions
Why isn’t he, please? Is he snakebitten, or is it a deeper issue with him? Last year the Pack Line, when they were on, looked like world-beaters.
I think he's struggling with his confidence
but he also looked/played A LOT stronger last season.
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Dubi has proven he is NOT a $4.2 million a year player. After that mini scoring spurt a few weeks back, Dubi has stopped attacking the net again. The Rangers can’t afford to have him playing LW on the 4th line at his salary level. They have a player in the system who plays a similar style with perhaps better offensive upside in JT Miller. What I am inferring is Dubi is easily replaceable.
JT Miller is a long ways from being able to put up 40+ points against other teams 1st and 2nd lines. I like our prospects, but let’s not get crazy.
Dubinsky this year is not a $4.2m player. Dubinsky last year certainly was. It’s up to the organization to determine if the 46 games this year or the 316 prior are the real Dubinsky. I’m inclined to trust the bigger sample, but I understand I’m in the minority.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions
NHL just needs to make clauses
to pay players based on performance with reasonable limits, ie floors and caps.
100% annual salary guaranteed if you make at least the specified # of points written in the contract, ie you could say Dubi is a 50 point player.
Bonuses for scoring more points and substantial decreases for making less, make penalties for not performing much higher, ie you are off the team if you can’t play anymore and you will make pennies from 3 million per year for 50 point player to if you have 15 points at the end of the year you will make only $200,000.
something crazy to motivate these guys
to pay players based on performance with reasonable limits, ie floors and caps.
you mean the player salary floor and caps that are already in place?
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No, he means floors and caps on each individual contract based on performance, something which the NHLPA would call on the NAVY to obliterate with a Tomahawk Cruise Missile.
Ideologically wonderful idea, would never happen.
OOOOOOOOH
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Dubi doesn't care anymore
I honestly think hes happy with his money will put in a little extra effort when people are getting mad at him and pressuring him but for the most part just kinda coast in games, he isn’t his fiery old self this season
I doubt you have any way of knowing that.
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yeah duh its an opinion lol
but does it look like he cares from his play? he used to dive for pucks to prevent breakaways, man handle people around the boards, be actually strong on the puck ( hardly anybody could take it from him behind the net ) all of that takes effort and not just skill.
I don’t see so much effort this season, the reason i don’t know..
I don’t know, I saw Dubinsky in the Devils game in OT skating to the net fll speed trying to dangle around the defensemen. There’s no way of knowing, but if they aren’t trying Torts would address it.
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Kevin and Caerid already pointed out the main problem with that, but beyond that, how does a team become cap compliant when they have no idea how productive the player will actually be, and thushave no clue how much a player will make in a season?
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 11:11 AM EST up reply actions
Definitely hard to do with rookies and younger players
But with the older players you generally know from career stats, it would be a difficult balancing act but could help motivate certain types of people.
I don’t know I wouldn’t necessarily want the people motivated by that on my team but w/e it would work with certain players.
Definitely difficult to administer and will absolutely never be accepted by the NHLPA lol
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Who should the rangers target? Nobody… why? because teams aside from PHX hold the rangers ransom on trades… (i guess you could throw MTL in there too) I would stay the course and instead of making a blockbuster trade to acquire an impact player, I would wait… Maybe make a small trade, and possibly by the end of the season a player like Kreider might be able to join the team for the playoff run and give the team a boost in the offensive department…
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On that list the only guy I’d even consider would possibly be Grabovski. 18/18/36 this season, upcoming UFA. Might be able to get him for a song and dance from Burke if he’s sure Grabs won’t resign…but Toronto is fighting for a playoff spot, so I really don’t see him trading Grabo unless he’s getting an NHL-ready guy coming back (could swap him for AA or Dubi as a scoring upgrade, and then we’ve shed one of those contract to acquire somebody else in the off-season, or possibly even re-sign Grabo.
I would take Grabo for Dubi, MZA and a pick for Grabo and a mid to late round pick in heart beat
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If we could do it for a lower-end prospect and a 3rd-rounder (hell even a 2nd-rounder) I guess it’s worth it. He’s playing center right now? So I’m not sure where he slots in, but I’m sure he’d play next to Rich.
He could center Gaby or play on the wing right now
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Just another lamb to the slaughter in the chemistry experiment that’s the 12 forwards we put out every night.
yep
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nah get Anisimov and Graby to play on the same line
The russians work well together, plus they can speak in a language hardly anybody else on the ice will be able to understand.
+1 advantage turns into +2 advantage points!
That might not work out so well for the other person on the line though.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 2, 2012 11:15 AM EST up reply actions
Gabby
Probably knows some russian being from a slovak country.
Anisimov Grabby Gabby
would be a pretty fast line hehehe, actually entices me lol
I would have probably gone with Fedotenko given his Ukraine background.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 2, 2012 11:19 AM EST up reply actions
good point
I forget about him seeing as how he will probably not be on the team next year, Ukrainian and Russian are practically identical.
I can converse with Ukrainians.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions
Nice to know what it takes to get Jim to stop by and post. Talk about masturbation and Anson Carter.
My two favorite subjects
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 11:27 AM EST up reply actions
As in “you think about Anson Carter when you…”?
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 2, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
there’s a reason I didn’t write about Jim’s office in the behind the scenes piece
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Let’s not get crazy, he wasn’t that good looking
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
He did rock the dreads though. I remember they barely fit under his helmet.
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 2, 2012 11:14 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Would fit right in on the power play
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by Brandon C. on Feb 2, 2012 11:14 AM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Trade Hank for him. Who needs him we have Biron for now and Talbot in the works
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 2, 2012 11:21 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
FInally...an excuse to use this picture
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Screw Cam Talbot
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 11:28 AM EST up reply actions
Cam wouldn’t say that about you
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yes he would
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I get letters
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Saying
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I got a letter from someone who supposedly knew him well, and this guy took major exception with the satirical article I wrote last year about him.
But I look at it this way: If nobody’s complaining, I’m not doing it right.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Really? Wow that’s sad
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It was his mommy
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It was from an adult, and I use that term loosely based on his spelling, grammar, and lack of knowledge about the anatomy, who claimed that his kids played hockey with Senor’ Talbot, and the Camster was a great kid, upstanding citizen, and that I was besmirching his good name.
I tried to explain that it was a joke, and presented as such in the article, but he didn’t care.
Here’s the article, and you can see most everyone took it in the spirit it was intended, and those that didn’t were quickly thrown under the bus:
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions
Oh I remember the article, is was one of your best
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Actually I always preferred the Max Brodeur article:
http://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2010/1/15/1253085/st-louis-blues-sign-max-brodeur-to
That was one of the few times I wrote a piece like this that made myself laugh. I’m my toughest critic.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 11:49 AM EST up reply actions
Cam Talbot, will be a living legend among Ranger whipping boys just because of the articles and comments that have been produced here. Lol
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Exactly. Some day when he wins the Vezina we can say we knew him when he was just a spoiled little brat.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 12:11 PM EST up reply actions
I dont get the Cam Talbot jokes. I guess I was absent that day.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 2, 2012 1:31 PM EST up reply actions
I did, why are we making fun of him? Did he do or say something that I dont know about?
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 2, 2012 2:47 PM EST up reply actions
I get that. But with most jokes it comes from somewhere. Like Drury and pizza or Drury and ruined xmas.
Ive seen Talbots name a few times in jokes, just don,t know where it came from. I guess you are saying he was just picked randomly?
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 2, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
If I recall correctly
He was called up for a game then sent down (I believe after Biron’s injury) then we called up Chad Johnson.
But the whole joke was how Cam was only the back up for 1 game then sent down, and with him being gone, so was his god damn sense of entitlement.
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This was gold. I just read the Max Brodeur article, that was some funny shit.
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You should write that guy back and tell him that Cam Talbot is the reason why no one wants to hear his opinion and why there is never any oreos left in the bag when you really want an oreo.
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Is he related to Jeff Beukeboom?
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 2, 2012 11:16 AM EST up reply actions
His son
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Why are their last names different?
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 2, 2012 11:17 AM EST up reply actions
?
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Damn. One letter off ……failed
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 2, 2012 11:22 AM EST via mobile up reply actions
The whole team should quit there job and have Chris drury hire them as delivery boys and move this team somewhere in Canada
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 2, 2012 11:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions
Aw hell
Andrew Gross @AGrossRecord
Ex-Ranger Aaron Voros, playing with Connecticut (AHL) is released from his PTO.
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Odd side note on “The People’s Champ”, I got NHL 12 about a month ago, and after the roster update he was placed on the Connecticut roster, but I can’t “find” him on the roster to scratch or trade him. I call it the “Voros glitch”, which pretty much describes his whole career.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 11:30 AM EST up reply actions
That is awesome
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I think he is holding back my becoming a “Legendary GM”
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 11:47 AM EST up reply actions
And on that day… no children cried. Not a single one.
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With the lack of talent on many teams, especially the bottom-feeders, I think either of them would probably be picked up on waivers. Maybe that’s the intention, but I don’t see why they can’t be traded in a package with a few picks for some LW depth.
That is one thought…someone might be getting on the bus.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 2, 2012 2:48 PM EST up reply actions
If the PP is so bad — with the Rangers’ “best” PP players — why not just put in all the “worst” PP players? Things couldn’t get any worse offensively, could they?
Now we’re cookin’ with gas.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions
Better than with Pu-239. Maybe if you get a bunch of guys who aren’t usually on the PP, who haven’t been beating themselves up over PP failure for the past three months, maybe they’ll be loose and able to accomplish something.
Even if they don’t score, at least this crew is (mostly) more defensively-minded, so there shouldn’t be any SHGs, either. Then when we return to 5v5 our most effective scorers will be well-rested (with no loss of morale) and ready to go.
Would that include John Mitchell?
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions
It certainly contains Mike Rupp.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 11:42 AM EST up reply actions
Who should be on the second unit planted in front of the net IMO
by Zuppa Di Pesce on Feb 2, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
Thats the same for the shootout I think. Put in guys who you don’t normally put in. Richards is 0 for whatever, why not try prust….he couldn’t be any worse
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 2, 2012 12:06 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
the PP hasn’t been good, but when was it? with the PK so good, the PP becomes less of an issue. 5 on 5 they’re arguably the best team there is. they have arguably the best goalie there is. solid D. leading in blocked shots again. second most points in hockey. the Rangers are fine unless someone important goes down.
people talk like they’re on the bubble again.
Shoot the puck Barry!!!
Every team has flaws
The Rangers just happen to be in a position where their most glaring flaw is under a microscope.
Didnt the Bruins go almost three rounds in the playoffs last year without scoring a PP goal? I remember hearing that on a broadcast recently. The point is you can still win with a bad PP, especially when you’re strong on the PK and 5-on-5. But it’s very taxing to continue winning these close games and leave so many potential goals on the table.
Sign me up for Grabovski, but only if it doesn’t cost Dubinsky, I would be willing to let go of Anisimov for him possibly but thats it, maybe a small time prospect and a low pick or something like that. But no Dubi, I know he’s had a down year but he should be a great player for us for a long long time.
Here’s some thing to consider, just gonna through it out there who do you think actually would want to take on Dubinski and his contract? and Anisimov isn’t particularly playing well enough for good trade value either……
Dubi’s contract isn’t exactly cap crippling. And GMs will probably look at it like George and a lot of other people do as in they won’t use just this season to evalulate Dubi as a player.
AA is even more valuable because his cap hit is lower.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 2, 2012 12:15 PM EST up reply actions
If there was a buyer for Scott Gomez, there will always be a buyer for someone like Dubinsky with that cap, or even Artie with his hit of what 2mil? I wouldn’t particularly like to trade either of them, but if we got something good back I would consider Artie, more so than Dubi.
by CrazyRangerFan on Feb 2, 2012 12:33 PM EST up reply actions
I agree, Its looking really unfortunate. I really did and still do want to see Dubinski stay around on the team and turn it around. Anisimov on the other hand I don’t really know how I feel anymore. He has been way to weak on the puck seems like the wind blows and he’ll cough it up. Dosnt really through any hits anymore. If he gained some strength he would be a completely different player. At 6’4’’ he should be closer to 230 lbs. I don’t even believe the 212 they have him listed at.
How's Sauer?
If the Rangers have worries about him, they need to go get a solid D-man to replace Bickell.
The minute Eminger and/or Woywitka are healthy, you can expect to see Bickel go away. Whether than actually solves anything is a question, but it’s not just Sauer’s health holding him here.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 12:27 PM EST up reply actions
Wow, I forgot about Eminger
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I thought Jeff was healthy, and they just wanted to play Bickel instead…
by CrazyRangerFan on Feb 2, 2012 12:34 PM EST up reply actions
Hate to say it
But I say no to everyone on the list.
I say no either because 1. I don’t see them being moved or 2. I just really, really don’t want them.
Not sure why the Leafs would move Grabo… though I would enjoy a line of Grabovksi and Gaborik (Grab-o to Gabbo!). Penner can’t come to New York, I know for a fact that we have pancakes. In all seriousness, Penner is a big body that is great to park in front of the net but I have big issues with his two-way game and his ability to disappear for long stretches of games. Bobby Ryan will cost us too much. Brad Boyes… maybe? I don’t think Boyes is going to help the team offensively very much, unless he happens to be the perfect fit for Richie or something like that.
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hmph
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Kevin
Why would the Leafs trade Grabovski?
Why would we want Penner and his pancake-vulnerable jaw?
I like Morrow’s game but do we really need an older Ryan Callahan?
Brad Boyes is intriguing but I have no idea what the asking price for a guy like Boyes would be. A prospect? A pick?
Don’t get me started on Booby Ryanz.
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Ok just booby then. What are your feeling on boobies?
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 2, 2012 12:47 PM EST up reply actions
Life isn’t worth living without boobies.
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uhm...uh...hmm...uh...
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Traid All Da PLAYERZZ111 for Brad Boyes?
Only if we play him on a line with Brian Boyle and get another guy who has a first name and last name that start with “B”.
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Dallas is 9th in the East, right behind a free-falling Minnesota. They aren’t trading their captain.
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and I said that, but this wasn’t meant to be taken that seriously, I was just throwing out some ideas of what kinds of players I would like to see and gave some examples
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I would love a Grabovski.
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so would I
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There’s a lot of rumors out of Toronto that they could only afford to keep Liles or Gravo, and they already re-signed Liles. How much of it is true, who the F knows, but that’s what I’ve garnered from the Twitterverse.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 1:28 PM EST up reply actions
The amount of people who follow Kim Kardashian makes Twitter a place that I approach with skepticism.
I think they’d be silly to move Grabo. He is on the right side of thirty (by more than a few years) and has all kinds of talent.
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Grabovski is a sick player, but if he is on the block Glen should be pushing hard to get him, but only at the right price of course.
by CrazyRangerFan on Feb 2, 2012 1:44 PM EST up reply actions
Well, I’m not following the mouth breathers. All trade rumors come with enough skepticism anyway, just pointing out that is something I’ve read on more than one occasion via the PPP guys.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 1:53 PM EST up reply actions
those PPP guys are a lot more trustworthy than most on twitter
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Just heard Rupp's thumb may be broken
….what “may” wouldn’t u know if it was if its hanging there and you can’t move it….I don’t get it
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five years
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Hopefully never considering he has a NMC and is in his first year with the team.
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Heh. Gotta love the HFBoards. I go there every once in awhile when I want to look at trade proposals and rumors that are crazier than what some of our guys here cook up.
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Malkin for Avery and a MLB draft pick
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Henrik Sedin for A-Rod, the Statue of Liberty, and Stu Bickel.
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maybe if we throw amare stoudamieyer, the time warner cable company, and the color orange into the deal we could pick up Daniel as well
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I don’t even know if I spelled it right, all I know is that I got closer than you did.
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He started to spell Stoudamire and then his hockey brain took over and meshed it with Niedermeyer.
Which would make for the fastest tall person in history.
With the biggest dork name ever. “Niedermeyer” is such a wiener of a name. I totally respected him as a player though.
Though if he was Amar’e Niedermeyer… I am not sure what kind of name that would be. Exotically confusing.
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I just LOL'd.
Hahaha. Love it.
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Am I alone in the respect that I would welcome a trade for Bertuzzi? I think he would fit well on this team and aid, not necessarily solve, the PP. He’s a big body, could be had for pretty cheap, and most definitely has skill ( http://youtu.be/IYRsSXMjO8E I don’t think people are aware of just how good his hands are – i wasn’t until I saw some of his highlights). I’m not sure of what DET would want in return, but you would think DET wouldn’t have a problem moving him. He does have a NMC but he also has a somewhat friendly cap hit (1.9 mill) if NYR were an appealing destination for him.
Why would Detroit move anyone? Why would he want out of Detroit.
Detroit is where you go to win the Cup.
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Just spit balling, Bertuzzi doesn’t do anything for them that they can’t get from someone else on the roster. im just tossing the idea out therw
by Zuppa Di Pesce on Feb 2, 2012 1:26 PM EST up reply actions
I think Bertuzzi gives them toughness and depth scoring. Those are two things that come in handy more than shitting diamonds when it is playoff time.
Shitting diamonds may be painful but I wish I had that superpower.
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meh, diamonds are overrated. its all about the sapphire
by Zuppa Di Pesce on Feb 2, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Um, no
Bertuzzi is actually playing damn well for the Wings. They know what to expect from him, he’s an older guy for secondary scoring, big body, physical, tough dude, and helps out the PP. Detroit knows exactly what to look for in a player, they’re always taking on older guys and revitalizing their careers for a season or few. Bertuzzi is in this case.
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I don’t want Bertuzzi anywhere near this team, I can not root for that man
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Nope, just for the fact that I think I’d rather avoid players of his ‘ilk.’ This team plays respectful hockey.
And, what Digger said. Let’s at least put a little thought into these ideas before we just blurt out stupid stufft like “omfg we need to trade for a guy like Toews!”
thank you for saying my post is stupid and comparing bertuzzi to toews
by Zuppa Di Pesce on Feb 2, 2012 1:27 PM EST up reply actions
Assuming we could get him for a reasonable price I think Selanne, despite his age, would be a perfect fit for this team for the stretch run/playoffs. Unfortunately Anaheim is making a strong push of late and still has an outside shot at the playoffs, and he has a NMC so he’d have to request a trade.
Then if he tanks and the Rangers have to send him to the Whale, we can write the headline “Rangers hide the Selanne”
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Zing!
“Selanne to fill the hole left by Voros.”
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Some say
That Selanne is considering waving his NTC should the Ducks work out a deal with the Rangers. Good news
by Guess Who's Back? on Feb 2, 2012 1:48 PM EST up reply actions
Source?
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One of my connects
From Bleacher Report passed the info to me via email, nothing serious, but it does give me hope
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I was thinking the same thing.
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yeah….no
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I like Staal
Dubinsky, Sauer, V-Tank, JAM and picks for Hossa
by Guess Who's Back? on Feb 2, 2012 2:24 PM EST up reply actions
Slumping, Injured, low ceiling, low ceiling. Unless that pick is one that got stolen from the Blue Jackets…yeah that’s not even close to happenig.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 2, 2012 2:26 PM EST up reply actions
He's 33 years old
I’m not gutting the entire team to acquire the guy. Maybe I’d consider one more prospect, two tops
by Guess Who's Back? on Feb 2, 2012 2:30 PM EST up reply actions
It’s not about gutting the team, I agree with you there. It’s about an offer that won’t make the Hawks GM laugh at you and then hang up.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 2, 2012 2:35 PM EST up reply actions
Plus, oh, I dunno, they aren’t trading him unless it’s for Henrik? Because, hey, they won a Cup with him 2 years ago…and he’s playing well…and they want to win another Cup….
and the fact that Hossa has like 11 years left on his contract
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You're right
We’ll have to wait until he’s only got 2 year left, unfortunately we’ll be about 75 – 90 years old by then
by Guess Who's Back? on Feb 2, 2012 2:51 PM EST up reply actions
side note. now THIS is a thread baby
GET RIPPED
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"Let's go eat a &€% %¥#$ snack" - Rex
Anything that gives folks ample opportunity to pull things out of their ass and then bitch at us for crying about the smell will be popular and receive lots of comments.
You aren’t going to like the story I just finished typing up.
There is a dog poo joke in the first paragraph.
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remember the big picture
I’m not opposed to making a move and bolstering the offense at the trade deadline, but Sather should be smart about this. Don’t bet the farm for anyone. This season so far has been absolute gravy in my opinion. I love the way this team plays night in and night out, despite the anemic PP. This team is still in “building” mode. Don’t forget we’ll have Krieder next year. If we can pick someone up cheap, than do it.
That’s a shit load of W’s going there at once.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 2, 2012 3:39 PM EST up reply actions
driving there in a VW too….
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by RangerFanInChicago on Feb 2, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Wolski is praying that they have a hot tub in Connecticut.
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is that a hot tub time machine joke?
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No, Torts has complained in the past that Wolski spends too much time in the hot tub and not enough time practicing and getting in condition for games
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LOL
i thought you were hinting that he should find and get in a hot tub time machine to re-emerge as his former self and be able to put up 50 points again.
maybe i was reading too far into the comment…
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woulda been one hell of an inside joke huh
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If we’re putting anybody in a hot-tub time-machine, somebody find Leetchie and throw his ass in there.
Hell yes. Or Zubov.
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Let's go get
Ray Whitney.
43 points in 51 games. Booyah.
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We do plenty of trades with the ’Yotes. Might as well do one more.
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Id take Whitney over Doan, who for some reason Ranger fans are hot for. Whitney is older (I believe he is in his mid-70s) but still more productive than Doan.
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 4:50 PM EST up reply actions
I like Whitney’s game. I am sure you know more about him than I do, considering you probably catch a bunch of ’Yotes games.
He is ageless, finds a way to get on the stat sheet no matter who he is playing with, still has good speed… lots of upside.
He will cost less than Doan in a trade too.
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And probably not smart for a team hurting at the gate and in tenuous financial positioning to trade a fan favorite and their captain. The guy’s an original Jet, played with Namath!
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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 5:33 PM EST up reply actions
On a serious note, I’ve always liked Morrow but he seems like he’s come down with Wolski Syndrome of late…always in the hot tub.
I also think its about damned time that Torts hires a coach for the PP. I know that is where he initially made his bones back in the day with the Sabres but for the life of me this team doesn’t seem any closer to breaking out of this PP funk and I have to imagine they are spending a considerable amount of time in practice working on it. Maybe a fresh perspective and approach is just what the doctor ordered.
What are your guys thoughts on Jeff Carter?
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 2, 2012 5:45 PM EST via Android app reply actions
his contract is rediculous too I just looked it up
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 2, 2012 5:47 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
10 years of a locker room cancer on a team built on young, impressionable talent in New York City…oh yeah that’ll work wonders
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I’ve thought a lot about him fitting in here. His contract, for what he can produce, is actually not that awful, but it does carry well into the declining years. It would eventually become an albatross of sorts.
As for his personality and commitment issues, I don’t think we’d have any problem with him in this type of environment. You have a highly-structured and discipline oriented coach and a well-established leadership on the team. He had that on Philly and played very well. Columbus has no true leadership, a coach that was obviously a joke on all levels, and a management group that if they weren’t running a hockey team, would have invented the 1st DVD rewinder.
I think he’d be affordable due to 1. Columbus obviously wants and needs to be rid of him, 2. He wants out obviously, and 3. Columbus is the type of team that will accept a quantity for quality type of trade where we could probably pull it off for picks/prospects that aren’t top blue-chippers.
In the long-term sense, I would decide against it, to the contrary of what I just said, I think you’re better off going after somebody like Parise, who while more expensive, is maybe another 2-2.5m more than Carter against the cap, for a much more rounded player with no history of ‘personal issues.’ I wouldn’t be devastated if we got Carter for cheap, because I think he’d work, but I believe there are better options going forward.
I would take him. Yes, his contract sucks, but he basically is a prototype of what we would need to add on the ice. Underrated defensively, and shoots at every opportunity. Him and Richards would be pretty potent. Will cost Dubinsky to get.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 7:13 PM EST up reply actions
Even with how offensively challenged Dubi has been, it’d be tough to give him up now instead of during the off-season when it’s easier to replace guys.
Philly got the #8 pick, a 3rd rounder, and Voracek, who is sort of like Anisimov, only his offensive talent has developed quicker.
A 1st, a 3rd, and a prospect should get it done, especially since I’m guessing a lot of teams are shying away because of the supposed ‘attitude issues.’ I don’t see them happening here, but I could only see the contenders making a play for him. That lowers the price, and with the talent he have in the pipeline and how young most of our guys are, we can pass up a few draft picks for a proven guy.
Biggest ? might be what happens with the new CBA, but, I’d be happy with this depending what we give up. Anybody going after Carter is negotiating from a real position of strength, and with Glen’s trade jiujitsu, I could see him here, replacing Mitchell or Feds.
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Then pray Sauer gets healthy.
I meant to make the money work long term. They could do the deal this year for sure, but eventually I think Dubinsky becomes a cap casualty.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 2, 2012 8:14 PM EST up reply actions
Ah, yeah that’s what I’ve been thinking, especially if (speculation of course) if somebody like a Parise/Weber/Suter etc. is going to be a true target in the off-season. Basically Dubinsky right now is a 4m cap-hit for some decent defensive play. That type of play can easily be replaced by a cheaper FA, or more likely another prospect running on an ELC.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 3, 2012 4:10 AM EST up reply actions
You would take on Carter even after being run out of Phily and CBJ? Not sure I would.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 3, 2012 4:12 AM EST up reply actions
I don’t think he was run out of Philly they just have a bunch of bad contracts and had to get rid of some if they plan on keeping girxiue however you spell his name
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 3, 2012 7:16 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
I’m not worried about the CBJ thing, from everything I’ve read it seems he’s just been pissed off that he signed for a life in Philly, and they moved him to a terrible situation. I think he’d play well in NY, with the extra motivation of playing PHI 6 times a year to get ‘revenge.’ He’s still on a 27-goal/82 game pace, with his shots way down, something I fully expected when they put him with another 300+ shot guy in Nash. Someone had to take the hit.
As for PHI, I don’t think anyone really knows what happened there. The Bryzgalov contract sure makes it look like he was just a cap casualty, but then all the other nonsense came out. Whether that was to save face, or what have you, I have no clue.
Just reading through BSH daily, the opinions of what happened seem to be pretty split, so I’d be willing to gamble that either a) it was a farse or b) Torts can get through to him.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 3, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions
I think a lot of the ‘rumors’ about Carter are more about, as you stated, ‘saving face’, or really about helping them justify what they did.
If Bryzgalov is rocking Henrik’s stats at this point in the season, yeah, cap-casualty. Bryzgalov sucks, he was traded away because of ‘personal issues.’
Coping mechanisms are funny that way.
Ok, fair enough. Maybe run out of town was a poor choice of words on my part.
Another question…would you rather Carter with his contract plus what we have to give up to get him or Parise? I cant imagine we would sign him to a worse contract than Carters
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 3, 2012 11:08 AM EST up reply actions
Parise if it’s under $7m and/or under 9 years. Carter otherwise. You have to figure Parise’s getting 5+ years
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by George E. Ays on Feb 3, 2012 2:55 PM EST up reply actions
He wasn’t run out of Philly, and as George said, he pretty much got shit on when traded to Columbus. He isn’t the 1st player to be unhappy about being traded to hockey purgatory. That team from the ownership on down is a complete disaster.
Him being traded from Philly was for 2 things. Mainly, the team wanted cap room to go after the Cosmonaut (Bryzgalov), because, let’s face it, goal-tending has been their achilles heel since Hextall’s good years. Second, there was a leadership rift between Richards and Pronger. Pronger and the team management wanted Pronger, yet the team voted for Richards.
You do the math. Team needed cap space, and they wanted a change on the team.
He wasn’t run out of town. You don’t run out a guy who scored 46 goals unless he kills your pet, bangs your wife and daughter, and exposes your fetish for young boys.
what is with the flyers and signing players to extremely long contracts lol
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 3, 2012 10:37 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
You don’t run a guy like that out of town unless he uses the Constitution for toilet paper, throws the family dog down the town well, sets the sky on fire, and never returns the DVDs you let him borrow.
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I watched the Bruins/canes game tonight and ruutu was pretty impresive….what would it take to get him?
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 2, 2012 10:38 PM EST via Android app reply actions
Zucc Stepan Gaborik
Now that’s a good line
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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 3, 2012 1:04 PM EST via mobile reply actions
there is no way im trading dubi for grabovsky but a package of zuccarello and anisimov for penner i will do imagine a line of cally dubi and penner oh man that would be a torts dream
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Wait wait wait.....
You wouldn’t want to trade for Grabo, but you would trade for Penner??? I mean depending on the prices for both of them there is an acceptable situation, but the one you posed in your comment, absolutely not.
Penner (who’s a LW, not RW) on the Rangers best matchup line is not Tortorella’s dream. At all. He’s slower, not a great forechecker, and his two-way play pretty much sucks.
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Have to agree, look what Haggs has done with speed. One more quick forward who can get in deep quick, win battles and get back in time should be what we are looking for.
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