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What is Wrong with Artem Anisimov?

"I just reload my weapon, y'know?" Maybe you should check your mag Arty, you've been out of bullets for a long time now.  (Photo by Chris Trotman/Getty Images)

Artem Anisimov hasn’t scored a point since December 22, 2011. His last point was an assist tallied against the New York Islanders, which begs the question should we even count that as a point? There is no denying that Anisimov is currently snake-bitten, Torts has tried putting him with the fourth line to light a fire under his ass but that clearly hasn’t done much for his confidence. I have always been a huge fan of Arty; how can I not be? The guy is like an adorable little Russian puppy that the Rangers found whimpering out in the rain and brought into the house and when the fans begged and pleaded, "Can we keep him?" the management said, "Oh, alright… but you have to be patient with him." Management also said something about picking up his leavings after we take him for a walk but screw that noise, the last thing I need to feel is the still-warm leavings of another being through a thin plastic bag. Join me for more after the jump (that is probably the last poo joke in the article, no promises though)...

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Anisimov strikes me as a player whose confidence is very, very delicate and easily shattered. Not having registered a point for over a calendar month probably isn’t doing much for his confidence, playing on the fourth line probably doesn’t do a lot for that either. It wasn’t all that long ago when Anisimov was playing with Stepan and Gaborik and was part of the most dynamic line the team had. So I started to wonder when did Arty lose his confidence, when did our puppy lose his way?

Theory Number One

The Shooting Incident.


Just look at everyone picking on poor Arty. He looks terrified. Would you want to score goals after having everyone going after you like you were a giant, honey-glazed ham running around on a desert island filled with starving lions? I don’t think you would. Arty only has scored two goals since the Shooting Incident. Coincidence? I think not.

A guilt-ridden Anisimov apologized to his team after the fracas and drama of his celebration:

"Hey guys, sorry be me. I didn’t mean it like, do something bad tonight. Like when my, my celebration. Sorry."

Does that sound like a player who wants to go out there and score goals or does that sound like a little puppy that has lost his way?

Theory Number Two

Dark Chocolate.

This theory is directly tied to the Shooting Incident but I thought it deserved its own explanation. Joe Micheletti revealed during the December 8th broadcast that Anisimov eats a great deal of dark chocolate.

"He must have eaten a lot of dark chocolate today. He eats that dark chocolate, it gets him going for the game."

What if Torts forbid him from eating dark chocolate after the Shooting Incident? What if Arty received no dark chocolate for Christmas from his teammates? What if Arty has the heart of a hummingbird and is completely out of sorts when he doesn’t have the proper intake of sugar? These are the difficult questions we have to ask guys. We have to start kicking down doors and figuring out who the hell took away Anisimov’s chocolate or at the very least find some way to get some chocolate to him.

Theory Number Three

He hates the rain.

We all know this has been a very wet winter. Anismov comes from a country that is known for its snow, supermodels, and vodka. There are plenty of supermodels and places to get vodka in New York but is there snow? No. There hasn’t been much snow. And it has thrown Arty completely out of whack. Anisimov has been desperately trying to tell us how he feels about the weather and how it is making him feel since… yes, you guessed it, late December. Around the same time he stopped scoring… the plot thickens.

Anisimov42 Artem Anisimov 27 Dec

I hate rain

Anisimov42 Artem Anisimov 27 Dec

Now rain so bad in Washington dc.


Anisimov42 Artem Anisimov 27 Dec

So nice. pic.twitter.com/y9gkRVOc

Anisimov42 Artem Anisimov 23 Jan

Again a rain! Where the snow?! It is winter.

It is clear that Anisimov really has a strong dislike of the rain, has a soft spot for rainbows, and is befuddled by the lack of snow. I suggest the Rangers start firing up some snow machines and do whatever it takes to make him feel more at ease and comfortable. Perhaps we can also build a giant tarp and drape it over New York City to keep out the rain. The only issues we’ll face then is possibly suffocating everyone, the lack of light, and where to get that much tarp. Anyone have a gift certificate to Home Depot?

Theory Number Four

Trying too hard.

Is it just me or has Arty been trying too damn hard lately? He seems to be overhandling the puck when he has a good shooting lane and keeps trying to take the perfect shot. In that extra few fractions of a second he is taking to cradle the puck for the perfect wrister he is getting stick-checked, pressured, or the shooting lane closes and he ends up wasting a great opportunity. I think Arty has to keep it simple and just take the shots that are there and not try to pick a corner. The same could easily be said for Dubinsky and his scoring woes.

If Arty relaxed a little and went back to playing like he was at the beginning of the year he would find himself with a lot more chances to put the puck in the back of the net. Just throwing it on net, especially if he is playing with grinders and bottom six forwards is going to get him on the stat sheet a lot faster than trying to wrist it top shelf.

I am really pulling for Anisimov to get his game back on track. I hate to see a kid with so much potential playing on the fourth line when we all have seen flashes of brilliance in his game. In all honesty I think he just needs a little bit of luck and to get an ugly goal to get him back on track. Torts should keep giving Arty a chance to redeem himself and earn more minutes with better linemates, if we have Anisimov playing the way he has shown us he can play for stretches the last few years we will have a lot more depth scoring and lord knows we need as much of that as we can get. Even though it is becoming more and more a herculean task, I urge all of us to show Anisimov some patience. He is still very young, has all kinds of size and skill, and still is playing very strong defensively. And if he still hasn’t scored a point in another month, I suggest we buy him a new stick weapon and name it something badass like "The Hunter’s Bow", get all the dark chocolate we can get our hands on, and start pitching in to buy a really, really big tarp and a lot of snow machines.

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by birdmansns on Feb 2, 2012 4:12 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Then my work here is done.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 4:13 PM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, very funny! The rain thing had me laughing.

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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 2, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions  

Appreciate the humor

But Arty needs 10 pounds and some confidence.

by WeWillWin94 on Feb 2, 2012 4:14 PM EST reply actions  

10 pounds you say?

10 pounds that could be added by getting Arty his dark chocolate which he lusts after like a vampire lusts after a throbbing carotid artery?

Still fits into my theory handsomely.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 4:20 PM EST up reply actions  

Just putting on mass

It can be sculpted into muscle later… right? Right guys?

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

I love fat mac

"Just reload my weapon, you know?" - Artem Anisimov
"We are going to come to Philadelphia, and we are going to win." - Mr.Sather
"I'm not a screamer or yeller. If I would try to scream and yell at people, it's not what I'd naturally do. So if I tried to do that, it would be awkward, I think." - Eli Manning

by Tripodi on Feb 2, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

I think everyone does, at least they should.

“I’m cultivating mass.”

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

You do not have the upper body strength to scale this building!

"Just reload my weapon, you know?" - Artem Anisimov
"We are going to come to Philadelphia, and we are going to win." - Mr.Sather
"I'm not a screamer or yeller. If I would try to scream and yell at people, it's not what I'd naturally do. So if I tried to do that, it would be awkward, I think." - Eli Manning

by Tripodi on Feb 2, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Plagiarism.

So I started to wonder when did Arty lose his confidence, when did our puppy lose his way?

Billy Madison: Uh… Okay. The Industrial Revolution to me is just like a story I know called “The Puppy Who Lost His Way.” The world was changing, and the puppy was getting… bigger.
So, you see, the puppy was like industry. In that, they were both lost in the woods. And nobody, especially the little boy – “society” – knew where to find ’em. Except that the puppy was a dog. But the industry, my friends, that was a revolution.

by Caerid11 on Feb 2, 2012 4:17 PM EST reply actions  

That was supposed to be an allusion that ran throughout the post.

You can call it plagiarism if you’d like. But you will do so from the chateau bow wow.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 4:19 PM EST up reply actions  

You hurt my feelings.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 4:21 PM EST up reply actions  

The only thing Irish cry over is spilled beer.

by Caerid11 on Feb 2, 2012 4:34 PM EST up reply actions  

No, we only cry when the spilled beer goes through cracks in the floor and we can’t lap it up off the floor.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Principal: Mr. Madison, what you’ve just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul.
Billy Madison: Okay, a simple “wrong” would’ve done just fine.

One of the best jokes I have ever heard.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 4:30 PM EST up reply actions  

Where's Moshe

I’m pretty sure this is his sig haha

"Just reload my weapon, you know?" - Artem Anisimov
"We are going to come to Philadelphia, and we are going to win." - Mr.Sather
"I'm not a screamer or yeller. If I would try to scream and yell at people, it's not what I'd naturally do. So if I tried to do that, it would be awkward, I think." - Eli Manning

by Tripodi on Feb 2, 2012 4:36 PM EST up reply actions  

I think you are right. It always makes me chuckle.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

HEY!

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Feb 3, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions  

Forgot to mention

This is my first story in a long time. Hope you guys like it.

And if you don’t like it send all of your complaints to Brandon. He is my self-appointed secretary.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 4:24 PM EST reply actions  

Great article Dig, it’s a serious issue right now with Arty, but it’s good to engage things with a sense of humor…otherwise we’d all just shoot ourselves. Or be boring like Brandon.

I think, first and foremost, Arty needs to be back at center. That’s where he seemed to thrive for most of his career. I know his face-offs aren’t that great, but he’s not terrible at it. Maybe give the Pack line another go-around (not like anything ELSE is working).

It’s obvious the offense needs to be shaken up. There’s 0 chemistry right now between anybody, well, except for anybody playing with Carel Hagelin because his speed hides offensive deficiencies. I think it’s time to put Richards back with Gaborik. It was the whole point of getting Richards, so they might as well try it. It’s just a matter of who gets shifted down, which should be Dubi at this point.

Hagelin-Richards-Gaborik
Stepan-AA-Cally
Dubi-rest of the forwards etc.

It’s not like it could be any worse that what’s already been tried.

by Caerid11 on Feb 2, 2012 4:28 PM EST reply actions  

I think, first and foremost, Arty needs to be back at center. That’s where he seemed to thrive for most of his career. I know his face-offs aren’t that great, but he’s not terrible at it. Maybe give the Pack line another go-around (not like anything ELSE is working).

If for no other reason I like him at center because of his size and his ability to get the puck up the ice. Like you I prefer him there, lord knows he needs work on faceoffs but that can be worked on (and is being worked on).

I like the lines you proposed. I think it is time to start giving Arty a chance to succeed instead of trying to motivate him by playing him with the fourth line. He was given some ice time with Callahan and Richards last night and he seemed to have a little bit more jump in his game.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

It’s the same thing with Richards. He’s playing with…Feds and Prust…2 guys who completely make Richards skill-set fucking useless.

by Caerid11 on Feb 2, 2012 4:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Like putting a Porsche in a demolition derby.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

Not for the whole game (he was with Cally and random LW at points) but that line together at any time is just PFTBLECHT!

by Caerid11 on Feb 2, 2012 4:37 PM EST up reply actions  

yeah it probably consisted of something like:

Richie: alright feds go try and get some space and i’ll get you a pass.
Feds: no you shoot i go get puck.
Richie: well I can set you up with a pretty good shot just try and get open.
Feds: no i go after puck behind net.

by rain-g-errs on Feb 2, 2012 5:36 PM EST up reply actions  

Why not go back to the Pack line of Dubi – AA – Cally?

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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 2, 2012 5:31 PM EST up reply actions  

Confidence...

Arty may lack confidence, but i don’t think a garbage goal is going to wake this guy up…I think it’s deeper than that. He lacks the killer instinct/appropriate level of testosterone/dominant aspect to his game. He has never had it…it just isn’t part of him. That isn’t to say it could never be. However, for it to happen (quickly rather than several years from now) i think he would need a few things: a) more patient coach, b) a more offensive minded team system (dump and grind isn’t friendly to finesse players like arty IMO), and c) several months (here’s where the coach’s patience is important) top line minutes with at least one potent playmaker (eg stepan or richards) . As much as we all would like to see this guy blossom as the offensive dynamo he is capable of being, i don’t think he can do it in the rangers system.

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by NYRGrady on Feb 2, 2012 4:34 PM EST reply actions  

Traid for Grabovski

or any 3rd line russian with offensive talent,

russians click together

by rain-g-errs on Feb 2, 2012 4:42 PM EST up reply actions  

Seems like you have spent a lot of therapy sessions with Arty.

I wouldn’t pigeon-hole Arty as unable to play a gritty game. He has great size and has shown an ability to battle and work in the corners despite not being overtly physical. He isn’t exactly a graceful, shifty player. He is more of a hybrid.

I think we need to exercise a lot of patience with a guy like Anisimov, the strength of his two-way game alone warrants that. He has good speed, good size (just needs to throw on some muscle), good vision, great hands, and knows how to play defensively. He fits our system pretty damn well.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 4:43 PM EST up reply actions  

alright, alright....

i’m not claiming to know the guy well…it’s just how he comes off in interviews and during the game (you yourself likened the guy to a puppy dog). Although you were half-joking, there is a reason that such an image comes to mind when thinking of arty. I agree with you that arty is a player that needs patience. Like i said, he is totally capable of developing into a player that better personifies the description you just gave. The question is…do the rangers have the patience? Giving the guy 4th line minutes is in no way making him a better player. For some players, going from the first to the fourth line is a great wakeup call. For arty, his confidence seems to be wavering even more…and a garbage goal is going to wake this guy up? I don’t think so, but time will tell. To me it seems that what arty needs is for the rangers to really invest in him. Trust him with top six minutes even when he isn’t producing. Keep him with players that are going to help him score goals to give him that confidence. If the rangers can do that and AA responds…he can become what every ranger fan hopes he will become. If the rangers put him in the dog house or if AA is unable to make that jump to the next level…well…that would just be disappointing, wouldn’t it?

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by NYRGrady on Feb 3, 2012 2:56 AM EST up reply actions  

I stand by my assertion that Artem Anisimov is a puppy dog.

The question is…do the rangers have the patience?

Everything about the youth movement would suggest we offer patience to the development of young players that we have recognized as part of the core group moving forward. Arty is struggling right now, he is struggling big time, but he is not Petr Prucha or Grachev. Anisimov has a complete two-way game and has shown the ability to play with all kinds of players.

To me it seems that what arty needs is for the rangers to really invest in him. Trust him with top six minutes even when he isn’t producing. Keep him with players that are going to help him score goals to give him that confidence.

Which is exactly my point. My only non-joke “Theories” are 1 and 2. I happen to believe that the “Shooting Incident” has something to do with Arty’s confidence being shot to hell and I really and truly believe he is trying too hard. I think he should be given the chance to play with quality players so that he might rebound and find himself on the scoresheet sooner rather than later.

As for my suggestion that he needs a garbage goal to get him going, that first goal has to come from somewhere. And when most of Arty’s shots are wristers that he telegraphs top corner nearly every single time, an ugly goal might do a lot for his confidence. He needs to relax and play his game.

You and I both agree that keeping him in the dog house is a bad idea, it rarely works for young players, even though Torts absolutely loves to do it to try and light a fire under their asses.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 3, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

i think...

that we agree on everything but whether the rangers have the patience to let him develop as a player. true, the rangers investment in the youth is undeniable but their usual way of dealing with young players with wavering confidence is to cut their minutes or send them to the whale. they usually don’t let them continue to play top line minutes. torts doesn’t usually give players minutes unless they are doing something noticeable after he puts them in the bottom six. so one of two things needs to happen…arty needs to string together some points with linemates that may not do much to help him get there or tort needs to realize that arty belongs in the top six…slumping or not. one thing that arty may have going for him is that the offense as a whole is not looking to strong. so maybe he does get top line minutes following an impending line shake up…i sure hope he does.

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by NYRGrady on Feb 3, 2012 10:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I hope he does too. I happen to think the organization is pretty high on Anisimov, he is a very valuable player with more potential than you can shake a stick at.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 3, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

you forgetting something

You try going to Russia and picking up the language. You can’t judge his timidity based on how he is in interviews.

by KingHenrik30 on Feb 3, 2012 3:13 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

anisimov is not another EC

ok guys relax the guy is not timid, hes of the same frame of mind as Ilya Bryzgalov, searching for some meaning in his Hockey life.

That will not translate to being a soft stiff on the ice like EC and wolski so lets not get ahead of ourselves.

by rain-g-errs on Feb 3, 2012 3:23 PM EST up reply actions  

My French is ok but I would shit myself if I had to do an interview in French.

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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 3, 2012 4:02 PM EST up reply actions  

Arty will be back to his former self

before the playoffs start, I just hope Sather doesn’t try to include him on any deals come the 27th.

by rain-g-errs on Feb 2, 2012 4:54 PM EST reply actions  

That is my worst nightmare.

I would hate to deal Arty away needlessly just because we hit the panic button and thought we had better get something to ensure a deep playoff run this year. I think he is worth more than that.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 5:17 PM EST up reply actions  

wish he'de get a chance

and torts reinstate the pack line for a game, would be nice to see especially against the flyers. come on AA be the little engine that i know you can be could.

by rain-g-errs on Feb 2, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed! Torts has tried all sorts of other line combos. Why not go back to one that worked so well for us last year? The worst that can happen is it doesn’t work, and then Torts can just re-shuffle the deck.

by dim3rd on Feb 2, 2012 5:53 PM EST up reply actions  

Little engine that is fueled by the passion, innocence, and desire of an adorable puppy that is delirious because of the amount of dark chocolate that is in his system.

Wait… isn’t chocolate poison to dogs?

I think we have discovered the real source of the problem with Artie… he’s been poisoning himself with delicious chocolate.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 11:34 PM EST up reply actions  

He’s worth something if we get something similar in return, or if he’s part of a bigger deal for a good scorer. I really doubt he’d be traded for a rental.

by Caerid11 on Feb 2, 2012 7:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Maybe he’d be happier and looser if he were on the reunited Pack Line. At least he’d know that Cally and Duby would stand up for him if some buttwipe like Lecavelier tried to deck him.

by dim3rd on Feb 2, 2012 4:57 PM EST reply actions  

the result of that celebration was so depressing to watch, him nearly getting wrecked, getting a penalty from people going after him for what was a simple celebration, no reason to get so mad…

by rain-g-errs on Feb 2, 2012 5:09 PM EST up reply actions  

Agreed! All this because TB had underachieved all season (to that point), was frustrated with themselves, then suddenly had a target for their anger. Until that game, I had no problem with TB, but now I’d like to see Rupp, Prust, and Duby zamboni MSG ice with Stammer, LeCavelier, and Downie’s faces.

I wonder whether Gaby “shotgunned” Lundqvist during the ASG, not just to yank on Hank’s chain, but also to reassure Arty.

by dim3rd on Feb 2, 2012 5:52 PM EST up reply actions  

stammer is alright

but LeCavelier lost all my respect as a player what a fucking douche.

by rain-g-errs on Feb 2, 2012 6:08 PM EST up reply actions  

Don’t know whether this is the problem or not but he seems to get leveled at least once a game, if not every other game. Don’t know who it was but some drilled him near the blue line last night. He skates so up and down and he repeatedly tries to go through checks along the boards as he gets to the offensive zone and it usually doesn’t work out so well.

I think he needs to learn to avoid some of these heats or at least put himself in a better position to absorb them.

by Twigs on Feb 2, 2012 5:07 PM EST reply actions  

He has a talent for getting destroyed, especially near the boards and when he is carrying the puck up the ice. He skates with his head down too much.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 3, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Poo jokes, puppies, dark chocolate, and rain. What do these four things have in common? Yeah I don’t know either. But put them all together, and I smell a Wurlitzer! Or is it a Weinerschnitzel? The award they give great writers, that one.

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 2, 2012 5:37 PM EST reply actions  

You’re too kind Jim. Thanks.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 11:30 PM EST up reply actions  

I have no idea how to fix Artie

but this article cracked me up.

by Prustyballs94 on Feb 2, 2012 5:40 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

Considering how this article started...

…with the analogy of Arty being an adorable puppy, I’m not sure he wants to be “fixed.”

by dim3rd on Feb 2, 2012 5:54 PM EST up reply actions  

especially since someone creditted his bad play to a lack of testosterone I don’t think that would help

by Prustyballs94 on Feb 2, 2012 5:59 PM EST via Android app up reply actions  

Kind of my sentiment for the most part. I think the way to “fix Artie” is to be patient with him and give him ice time with players that will help him succeed. Burying him on the fourth line is going to do nothing but shit on his hopes, dreams, and ability to recover.

He needs to keep his game simple and shoot quick instead of taking his sweet time to try and roof every shot.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions  

lets give Arty some confidence

and next home game start a garden wide chant of “Arty Arty” during his first shift!!

by rain-g-errs on Feb 2, 2012 5:44 PM EST reply actions  

Or throw dark chocolate on the ice when he scores his next point.

Forgive me, I like my idea more.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 2, 2012 11:32 PM EST up reply actions  

Come on guys. If the Rangers were a team on the brink then I can see the panic mode.But we are tied for the best record in the league, isn’t that all that matters.

by jillywilly on Feb 2, 2012 6:20 PM EST reply actions  

BTW GUYS

since this is livest and most recent game thread, I’m gonna interrupt the artie discussion to let you guys know that Buttman is on the NHL network right now and its pretty amusing.

as soon as i turned in, a ranger fan called complaining about having ranger games in upstate ny blacked out when the sabres are playing…the fine commissioner he is, he had no real answer for the dude and it was very tough to listen to the commish not know a lot about the leagues tv coverage lol

its also streaming live on nhl.com

by polishBLUE on Feb 2, 2012 6:30 PM EST reply actions  

I agree..

Its not yet a panic time..but i guess that lines should be change again..and i wish Torts let them play longer than a few shifts..move Richards with Gabby and Hagelin and move Stephan with Calli and Dubi..for a while and see..it might work ..Also i think that Anisimov will gain confidence and start playing better,maybe .Torts could buy him some other kind of chocolate..It might work….Go rangers!! I have such a feeling that most of these guys will win the Cup!!!!!!!!!..in very near future!

by captain_ivo on Feb 2, 2012 7:31 PM EST reply actions  

I think the problem with arti is torts reduces his ice time puts him on a line with no scorers.I stead of putting bolye and dubi with all that ice time and dubi on the top line put arti instead cuse dubi sucks cant score bolye is just as bad .And stop telling me oh the do the other things so well .WE dont need players doing other things well we have enough of them give artie a chance hes better the those two.torts just dosent like him he has a bad game cuts back his ice time puts him on 4th line if thats the case then dubi and blye should get the same treatment cuse they havent and will continue to do shit for this team. have you noticed the passes dubi has made cant hit a players stick if he tried .blye keep cycling the net every shift i see how well hes scoring.i think arti deserves betterthen the way torts uses hime and leave the fucking lins alone stop changing themevery shift the have a bad game and he breaks up the line no woder the cant play together the don get a chace too

by nytrueblue on Feb 2, 2012 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

Arty was on good lines with good time and he played himself off. Torts did not mismanage him at all, Torts also had not shuffled lines for a few weeks when we were playing hot. Last night, AA got 16 minutes to Dubi’s 8 because the night before AA was starting to play better

by BigB22 on Feb 2, 2012 10:35 PM EST up reply actions  

very funny but I wonder how many Ranger fans will be laughing after he and Dubi are traded. As per Brooks: 2 goals or less the last 20 out of 49 games. 3 names come to mind: BR, Dubi and AA. One of the aforementioned names is not going anywhere. nobody wants the core to stay together more than me but I want a Cup more and they have a legitimate shot this year. as for going forward, I thought Dubi and AA would be Rangers for life. I was wrong.

by Richter1994 on Feb 3, 2012 6:34 AM EST reply actions  

I’m with you, fellow Richter! In order to maximize BR’s value, he needs a pure scorer on his wing. BR’s strength is skating and attacking up the middle of the ice and looking for wingers or a trailer coming into the offensive zone. Cally and Dubi attack the offensive zone by chipping in the puck along the boards and retrieving it in the corners. Hence, their style stifles BR’s creativity and I believe this is why BR’s talents have not been on display on a consistent basis this year. Let’s be honest – Cally is a lot of things for the Blueshirts but he is NOT a sniper. As others have pointed out, the Rangers need to land a scoring winger. A year from now, perhaps Krieder (a power forward with speed) fills that void if Sather doesn’t do anything at the trading deadline.

by MRichter35 on Feb 3, 2012 8:45 AM EST up reply actions  

100% agreed fellow Richter, lol.

by Richter1994 on Feb 3, 2012 1:12 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll be pissed off if/when he is gone. I personally don’t see it happening, and if it does happen we will likely get someone pretty special in return.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 3, 2012 8:46 AM EST up reply actions  

no one is giving him away but Dubi and AA are not untouchable like they were before.

by Richter1994 on Feb 3, 2012 1:13 PM EST up reply actions  

you do if it improves the team. emotions should get checked at the door. I’ve seen about 6 cycles of players as a fan and we still will be fans long after these players are gone either through retirement or trade.

by Richter1994 on Feb 3, 2012 1:14 PM EST up reply actions  

No, Frankie says trade for Jared Boll!

by Caerid11 on Feb 3, 2012 11:12 AM EST up reply actions  

Traid Him

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A lot of smoke and desperate clawing at the door. It wouldn’t work. It would just be a big, hot mess." -Dig Deep

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by Kevin Power on Feb 3, 2012 10:13 AM EST reply actions  

I’ll TRA1D Y0UUU!!!111

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by Dig Deep on Feb 3, 2012 10:36 AM EST up reply actions  

I think Glen would have an easier time trading Redden for a #1 pick.

by Caerid11 on Feb 3, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

We can trade Kevin to the Raw Charge for a week-long vacation package for all of the editors and regular members.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 4, 2012 9:47 AM EST up reply actions  

If your dog is lost you don’t just look for an hour and give up… you get your ass out there and find that fuckin’ dog

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by Clalicata17 on Feb 3, 2012 10:40 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

GOD DAMNIT GET OUT THERE TORTS

AND LOOK FOR ARTYS GOD DAMN PUPPY DOG GAME!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by rain-g-errs on Feb 3, 2012 11:00 AM EST up reply actions  

We can call it the FFN line.

Fail for Nail.

/ducks

by Caerid11 on Feb 3, 2012 11:13 AM EST up reply actions  

seriously

we should just scramble the lines as much as we can just for shits and giggles were bound to score at one point

by rain-g-errs on Feb 3, 2012 3:24 PM EST up reply actions  

This article is funny as hell.

A year ago I was all for cutting MDZ loose, and look how wrong I was. Just a mental thing.

So, newly chastened, I say give the guy some time.

He was our first line center for a long stretch this season when we were winning a fuckload of games.

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by Joe1969 on Feb 3, 2012 1:05 PM EST reply actions  

Good stuff.

I’d like to see him placed back on the top two lines. Dubinsky too.

Hagelin has been great, and I’d like to see what he continues to do with Mitchell and Boyle. Could be a good grinding, possession based 3rd line.

As I see it, you have Step-Gabby and BR-Cally. Through AA and Dubi on those two lines at LW, give them time to click, and see how it goes.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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by Moshe52792 on Feb 3, 2012 3:29 PM EST reply actions  

Okay, let's dismantle the conspiracy theory on AA.

Here’s what the problem is….

1. Too many of the same parts.

AA is a playmaker, who has skills on both the offensive and defensive side of the puck. Sound familiar? Oh, yeah, I think this is called a two-way forward…of which this team has several. He has skills to be a number 2 center [and a good one] in this league. On a team with more firepower (snipers, with less defensive skills), he’d be a dynamic forward. But, he’s reduced to being a pedestrian by surrounding him with others who play similarly. When players of like skills are put together, they so often defer to the player who has been around longer (like he did to Captain Cally and Dubi last season). He shot more out of necessity, but not as a confident shooter or offensive player.

With Richards here and Gaborik resurging, he’s not relied on to shoot. And has defered shots to Gaborik and Stepan. An opportunity to grow has actually made AA shrink as an offensive player.

And speaking of that “shooting the goalie” incident…remember how quickly and viemently John Tortorella was to defend his team against the comments of one Joe Thornton, when Thornton called the Rangers soft? This same coach had a golden opportunity to use that to light an even greater fire under AA, and instead stated “he made a mistake”.

Why is this significant? Case in point:

Claude Julien (who I’m no fan of) defended the actions of Milan Lucic and Brad Marchand in separate incidents in the Bruins-Canucks matchup in Boston in early January. Albeit that Julien was dead-wrong in doing so, his progress stance kept the Bruins going strong.

I’m not justifying concussion-causing blatant cheap shots; as much as I’m pointing out that Julien, as much as I can’t stand him (and I can’t), I realize that as a coach you’ve gotta give your team the benefit of the doubt more often than not and stand behind your players.

This is an incident that Torts dropped the ball entirely on, with AA’s shotgun gesture. Ilya Kovalchuk pulled the same thing on back in his earlier years as I recalled, as did Marian Hossa and a number of others before him. So because Tampa Bay is mad at it (poor babies), you should renounce your player? No. You stand behind him and say “he was having a little fun, and got a little carried away. No big whoop.”

A lack of faith shown can go a long, long way to failure.

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by Danz10 on Feb 3, 2012 5:12 PM EST reply actions  

I have to somewhat disagree, Torts did defend him but also admitted he made a error in judgment.

I don’t think he’s built to be on the Wing that’s in my mind one of his biggest problems. He cannot skate the puck up the boards without being stopped in his tracks. He was generating offense with Gabby and Step by being the 1 or 2 pass out of the zone then didn’t really have much more to do with the play cause those 2 would put it in. He would be better served in the Center role where he can put himself in a position to avoid hits using his skating abilities to dodge on coming players. He looks trapped against the boards on the wing. He used to score goals at center by driving hard to the net making a nice move or two and roof it. He would be better used there imo and with respect to face offs just use some one else for the draw.

by dbest6808 on Feb 3, 2012 6:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I’ll conquer with the center-wing issue.

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by Danz10 on Feb 3, 2012 6:21 PM EST up reply actions  

I agree completely. He has produced best in his life as the center.

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by Moshe52792 on Feb 3, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

Agree on both.

A coach defending him but also saying it was a mistake should not destroy a player. If anything it teaches accountability.

I also believe switching him over to LW has changed his game, how could it not? I understand why they did it but it does not appear to help the progress of his game.

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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 4, 2012 4:50 AM EST up reply actions  

I think you are underselling the value of having a team with a lot of great two-way players. There is a team like that in Michigan, they wear red and white and have a lot of finger jewelry.

Even if I think Torts was “hard” on Arty, that is Torts. You can’t be mad at Torts for being Torts when it has us on top of the league right now. You take the good with the bad when it comes to crap like this. Torts may be ineffective at getting players back on track offensively but he will make damn sure that they play the system and not hurt the team when they have the puck or are playing defense.

By the way, how ironic is that Joe Thornton comment now?

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by Dig Deep on Feb 4, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

Two-way players are great for sure, but sometimes you need that over-the-top offensive talent as well.

The guys on Detroit are two-way in the sense that they can play a strong defensive game, but they have offensive abilities Dubi/Cally/AA/etc could never dream of.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Feb 4, 2012 1:08 PM EST up reply actions  

You’re absolutely right. Though I would argue that it is only two or three players on Detroit that have those elite skills (Datsyuk, Zetterberg, and maybe Franzen).

Dubi and AA could potentially develop more offensively but they will likely never reach the heights of a guy like Franzen and certainly not the other two star players I mentioned.

My point is you can get it done with a team full of two-way forwards, great defense, a great goaltender, and two or elite offensive players, especially if you have depth scoring.

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by Dig Deep on Feb 4, 2012 4:33 PM EST up reply actions  

Exactly. The last paragraph you had summarizes a few great teams in this league. Ours, the Bruins, and a few others as well.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Feb 4, 2012 7:22 PM EST up reply actions  

I think AA is a good homegrown player who will be a career 3rd liner for our team. I think we as fans have over valued him to some degree. We expected that he had a higher ceiling but I don’t know if that potential will be realized here because there are at least 6 players ahead of him skillwise.

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by earthworm on Feb 4, 2012 11:30 AM EST reply actions  

Who are the six guys more skilled than him?

Richards Gaborik Stepan?

I don’t think Cally or Dubi are more skilled. So unless you are saying all of those guys, and I suppose Hagelin are all more skilled than AA, I don’t see how there are six.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

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by Moshe52792 on Feb 4, 2012 1:09 PM EST up reply actions  

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