Comparing Anisimov and Callahan
by Moshe52792 on Feb 21, 2012 12:59 PM EST
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PrintAs I am entirely fed up with everyone underrating Anisimov, this post will be an attempt to convince others how important he is to this club.
In the past, George has put up countless charts and graphs explaining how he plays against top competition and continues to produce regardless. I feel like many posters ignore a lot George's stuff, because it's harder to understand.
So I'm going to keep this simple, and I'm going to compare him to a player everyone loves, Ryan Callahan.
I'll try to compare the two the best I can in terms of age and playing time. Callahan is three years older, but Anisimov seems a year ahead in his development, so I will compare numbers in terms of Cally's production two years ago = Anisimov's production today.
- I will start off in the 2006-2007 season, when Callahan played his last year in the AHL. That year, in 60 games he had 55 points. In 2008-2009, in 80 games Anisimov had 82 points. So far, so good.
- In 2007-2008, Ryan Callahan made his NHL debut. In 52 games with the big club, he put up 13 points. Comparably, in 2009-2010, Artem Anisimov made his NHL debut, and in 82 games he put up 28 points. Here we see, once again, AA producing more than Callahan at a younger age.
- In 2008-2009, Ryan Callahan begun winning the hearts of Ranger fans. In 81 games he put up 40 points, and we begun to realize how special he truly was. In comparison, in 2010-2011, Anisimov made that same mark, and in 82 games put up 44 points. Look familiar yet?
- Now we get to the struggling season. In 2009-2010, Ryan Callahan's numbers dropped a small amount, and he managed 37 points in 77 games. At this point, he was being called a 3rd liner at best, and while we loved his heart, many believed that talent just wasn't there. Similarly, in 2011-2012, Anisimov has also remained stagnant in his production. In 56 games he has 29 points. To compare to Callahan, if Anisimov plays a full season (which he tends to every year), he'll go on to put up 42 points. This season, people are beginning to say that Anisimov is a "3rd line player at best" and "just doesn't have the talent". Sound familiar?
This is where Anisimov's story leaves us. In the last two years, Callahan has gone on to put up 91 points in 117 games. Looks real nice to me. Comparing both players production, Anisimov has put up more points at each experience level, while being a year younger. Seems to be that he's on pace to put up AT LEAST the points Callahan has put up over the last 2 years.
So for those who value Anisimov as a 3rd liner, or someone who can be easily replaced, or someone who just doesn't have enough talent to get it done, just remember Ryan Callahan. That's all I ask.
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Ryan Callahan averages (13 + 40 + 37 + 48 + 43) / (52 + 81 + 77 + 60 + 57) = 0.55351682 PPG in the NHL.
Artem Anisimov averages (28 + 44 + 29) / (1 + 82 + 82 + 56) = 0.457013575 PPG in the NHL.
IMO, both will improve, they are still young players and their peak is ahead of them.
Take out Callahan’s last two years, as AA hasn’t had a chance to produce at that age/level of experience.
Take out those two years and AA is actually ahead of Cally.
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Just posting the #s :P
I agree with you AA will be a big factor, we definitely need to keep him and let him develop.
just for the sake of fun:
Here are marian gaborik’s #s:
Marian Gaborik is (66 + 57 + 83 + 23 + 86 + 48 + 50) / (57 + 65 + 48 + 77 + 17 + 76 + 63) = 1.0248139 PPG in the NHL.
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Yeah. Read the intro to the post.
He’s 3 years younger but is a year ahead in his development because he came to the NHL a year earlier than Cally.
Because of that I compared their numbers with a 2 year gap.
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agree, always been an AA fan. can’t deny that the kid has talent.
and personally i found the bit of him doing the goal celebration on 24/7 frickin hilarious…
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by BombersGmenBlueshirts25 on Feb 21, 2012 1:22 PM EST reply actions
it was amazing
Vinny Le fagalier just is mad his team is terrible this year and took out his absurd frustration out on Arty. Our team really failed there to protect Arty and it is one of the few times this season I was mad at torts for the sh*t he said about it.
I loved that smile for Artie.
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avery’s smirk entering the locker room was priceless lol
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by BombersGmenBlueshirts25 on Feb 21, 2012 1:45 PM EST up reply actions
Such an awesome shot haha
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It’s a good one though :)
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This is just measuring his offensive output….Artie is far more important too our team defensively. He is probably the best two-way forward on this team hands down…
Absolutely. I was just comparing him to Callahan, and they are both great two-way players, so I left that part out.
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Anisimov is obviously talented
He has grown into a great two-way player. However, I worry about his severe lack of confidence. After his most recent offensive drought he actually admitted that he didnt even want the puck during that time. He has all the talent to be a great 2nd line center, but I find his confidence levels offputting and a little alarming. He needs a kick in the pants or a sports psychologist or something, or else I fear he will forever be a 3rd line player.
It is a worry, but in his last 9 games he has 8 points right?
Coinciding with being placed back on the top 2 lines. He got out of the slump and now he’s playing fantastic.
As long as his teammates and coach keep pushing him he’ll be fine. I almost wish he had an older russian mentor on the team.
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Wolski and a 2nd for Ovechkin?
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by BombersGmenBlueshirts25 on Feb 21, 2012 1:46 PM EST up reply actions
lmao oh boy
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If you watched the game last night, Washington looked pitiful. You could predict that 5th goal, about two minutes before it happened. Lazy, lazy, uncaring play.
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by nathansfamous on Feb 21, 2012 1:50 PM EST up reply actions
I didn’t see it, but yeah, it’s not too shocking really.
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such talent on that team too, they just can’t get it together
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by BombersGmenBlueshirts25 on Feb 21, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
On the fifth goal, instead of clearing attempts, it looked like they were feeding Carolina for point shots.
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by nathansfamous on Feb 21, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
On the fifth goal, instead of clearing attempts, it looked like they were feeding Carolina for point shots.
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by nathansfamous on Feb 21, 2012 1:56 PM EST up reply actions
Regarding his confidence, Joe Mich. mentioned during a game a couple of weeks ago that Anisimov has gone through some personal problems and had told Torts he was “ready to play” at the time he got moved back up to the 1st.
Obviously not an excuse and no clue what those personal issues are. We could speculate though that the Russian plane crash affected him deeply, moreso than Gabby or other players, as I believe Anisimov grew up playing with half the team in youth leagues etc.
he did know half that team, had many good friends that passed. But I don’t think that would have affected him that much at this point, he played great hockey before earlier in the season, one would have to think it was something else…but whatever hes playing great hockey again thats all I care about at this point.
by CrazyRangerFan on Feb 21, 2012 5:30 PM EST up reply actions
My biggest concern with AA as well. He does seem ‘fragile’ in that department but not in a bad way. He seems to be really hard on himself. Hard to describe it.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 21, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
I have said this previously, but what I thought was telling about AA’s recent success, was the game against Boston. AA had several battles with Chara in the corners, and won them. You could see AA’s confidence. He was not afraid to go in the corners with Chara, and he beat him those times. Once again Moshe, I agree with you. Just got through reading some long threads, and epic Nash battles too. You make a lot of sense.
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Epic Nash Battles haha.
Thanks bud.
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Epic is a good word. I would not have had the patience. I would also have hated to argue with your logic. You were right on point.
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by nathansfamous on Feb 21, 2012 1:58 PM EST up reply actions
Apparently not haha.
If the argument was that convincing 12% or so of people on this site wouldn’t have still wanted him.
Also, I was just procrastinating instead of writing my paper. With all the words I typed, I could have written 20 papers.
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lmao
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First Goal Tonight vs Pens:
Artem Anisimov :)
honestly right now
im waiting till past the 28th to order my Anisimov Premier Third Jersey
The thing that separates Callahan and Anisimov are the intangibles.
Callahan is a Captain and was given the A for his leadership ability.
While Anisimov isn’t bad defensively, Callahan is probably the best defensive forward on the team and very good compared to other NHLers. He might not win a Selke but his shot blocking ability, and penalty killing are awesome.
Anisimov is still finding his way a bit in the NHL and I fully expect him sometime in the next two years to start putting up better offensive numbers than Callahan. I would bet on that.
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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 21, 2012 2:07 PM EST reply actions
Don’t discount AA’s defensive ability. He keeps the GAS line going, if you ask me.
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He creates a lot of their offense with his defense in our zone or the neutral, creating a turnover, etc.
exactly, his defense creates offense, I wouldn’t necessarily go ahead and say that about Callahan. Although both players are obviously incredibly important to us…
by CrazyRangerFan on Feb 21, 2012 5:32 PM EST up reply actions
lmao
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Callahan is far from the Rangers best defensive forward
First, I love Ryan Callahan, great captain and great player with all the heart one could ask for. Nonetheless, AA is a markedly better defensive player (especially because regardless of laying wing or center he has been brought up learning the much more important responsibilities of center). Arguably the weakest part of Callahan’s game is that he sometimes roams out of position in the defensive zone. He more than makes up for this with his quickness and willingness to sacrifice his body, but until his positioning improves you cannot call him our top defensive forward. On the Artie front, another player I love, I think the offense will stagnate until he speeds up his release (I think Stepan sometimes falls prey to this as well). it would be interesting to see Rangers players with highest frequency of shots blocked per attempt. I bet Anisimov and Stepan would be among the highest on the team. Regardless, I agree with the original poster that AA is a phenomenal talent who should be given our patience. His wrist shot is devastating when he gets it off. Also, Artie often gets nailed in any given game, but I attribute this to his willingness to get hit to keep the play moving. If he works on his quickness with boyle’s skating coach and shortens his release he should easily average 60-80 points a season.
by needmoretikkanen on Feb 21, 2012 5:27 PM EST up reply actions
Hes very defensively sound for a Russian
I don’t think any Russian club runs a system like the Rangers do, and AA fits in pretty well with the forecheck for the gasline.
don't you remember Federov
best two way forward in the game, ever.
I mean he played defense and forward hahahah
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by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 21, 2012 3:10 PM EST up reply actions
Ah Nemchinov, one of my favorites.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 21, 2012 3:42 PM EST up reply actions
Nemchinov was more sound defensively……like a Russian Jan Erixon in his two way game but not much of an offensive force. I think the verdict on AA is still out. I like the guy, he needs confidence and he needs to stop getting knocked around as much as he does. I would like him to really start producing so I have more confidence in him being the player that everyone thinks he is.
Absolute Worst Ranger Fan!!!!!!....yet incredibly realistic and usually correct.
In my head when I wrote this I actually thought of the Russian Jan Erixon comparison. And true, AA has more upside offensively them Nemchinov and Jan for that matter.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 22, 2012 4:04 AM EST up reply actions
i hate federov. remember that time wade redden screened henrik and handed federov the game winning goal in the playoffs a 3 years ago. ugh.
side note, unless im all sorts of screwed up (which happens a lot), that might have been the first time we saw anisimov. didnt he get called up in game 7 against the caps when our wheels were falling off? i remember thinking even that game that the kid was going to be solid.
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Yeah, I think he played one playoff game.
Lots of pressure for a kid.
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that game was bullshit.
A centering pass goes off of Cally and in to the net. Ugh that hurt.
Federov is a legend though.
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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 21, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
i remember that game ugh, thought it was staal though
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by BombersGmenBlueshirts25 on Feb 21, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
It was Callahan backchecking, throwing his stick into the passing lane ;)
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by red army line on Feb 21, 2012 10:52 PM EST up reply actions
Says the Caps fan happily.
I’m sure you smiled ear to ear when you read the posts above.
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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 21, 2012 11:36 PM EST up reply actions
Well, yeah, haven’t had anything else to smile about lately, especially now that Kirk Muller in Carolina has a better record than Hunter in Washington.
Also, out of the four conference title contenders in the East this year, I dislike the Rangers the least, so there’s that, I guess.
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by red army line on Feb 22, 2012 12:25 AM EST up reply actions
Not many guys on the team to hate, really. We don’t have one of those agitator / borderline-dirty players, plus everybody loves Henrik.
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side note, unless im all sorts of screwed up (which happens a lot), that might have been the first time we saw anisimov. didnt he get called up in game 7 against the caps when our wheels were falling off? i remember thinking even that game that the kid was going to be solid./blockquote>
I thought that was Game 5 the previous year against the Pens in the second round, and I could have sworn he scored our only goal too…That was his debut I thought…
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i actually have this problem alot. the block quote thing always includes whatever i type after the quote also. kind of annoying. anyone wanna clue me in?
For blockquote, just put bq. before whatever it is you want quoted (you need that period after bq and then a space before the quote) and always an extra line of space before and after whatever it is you’re quoting. So, type what you want to say, then Enter, Enter, bq. Paste Text to be quoted here, Enter, Enter, continue typing.
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"Oils like he's getting a himmer!"
Nooooope
That was Lauri Korpikoski haha remember him? He turned out to be solid but back then anyone who scored a goal in there first game ever which just happens to be a game against the pens IN the playoffs…loved him
I do remember Lauri, I had a feeling I mixed those two up for some reason
by CrazyRangerFan on Feb 23, 2012 1:36 PM EST up reply actions
Hey George isnt the only one…
http://www.blueshirtbanter.com/2011/5/6/2156943/artem-anisimov-the-invisible-stud
good post Moshe
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 21, 2012 3:44 PM EST reply actions
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Thanks Moshe, now Howson will read this and think to himself (“ou know, maybe I should just take that offer of Glen’s of Artem Anisimov, a 1st, and Thomas, and call it a day.”
Good work though.
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by Caerid11 on Feb 21, 2012 3:54 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
LMAO
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don't do it!
don’t use the n word on this thread! my head is going to explode if i see it again!
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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 21, 2012 5:21 PM EST up reply actions
Moshe good post
I think fans (the ones who bash him) are frustrated with AA because they expect more from the talented player he is.
is he better than Alexei Kovalev? that’s the real question!
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by feslenraster on Feb 22, 2012 8:38 AM EST up reply actions
Good post Moshe. My take on AA is that he can be a top 6 if not maybe even a top line player. He has 2 major flaws right now: he is very indecisive (very slow release on shots and takes way too long to either dish or shoot) and he needs to keep his head up at all times (which I think he has done a better job of this year). He needs to correct both of these to get to the next level, IMO. Can he? Of course, that’s not even a question for me.
But AA is more focused on because Dubi hasn’t produced many goals and I almost feel that fans have given up on Dubi as it relates to goal scoring. I think some fans undervalue him and I think you’re overvaluing him a tad for right now. His recent production hasn’t gone unnoticed by me as I picked him up on my fantasy team early last week, lol. I just haven’t seen consistent offensive play from him yet. But I do think he has the tools. The weight he put on this year has served him well as he used to get knocked off the puck very easily.
Agreed. He needs to put up some more muscle in the offseason, maybe work with Barbara Underhill, and ask Datsyuk for some advice.
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Yeah asking Datsyuk for advice
You can’t explain how to be amazing at skating or puckhandling like that. That’s like me asking Rory Mcilroy (sorry if you don’t know him) for his golf swing.
Anisimov in Russian to Datsyuk: Hey Pavel I need some advice on how to skate a bit better and improve my puckhandling.
Datsyuk: Gee Artie I don’t know where to start. Go watch some of my shootout videos or something.
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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 22, 2012 12:45 PM EST up reply actions
You know what I meant.
There are plenty of players that ask other players for help, and there are plenty of players that have mentors. I feel that it could do wonders for Artie.
Also, of all golfers, why Rory?
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Artie transforms into a mini Datsyuk
boy that would be special.
Rory has the best swing on tour. Not to meantion he's dating Caroline Wozniacki. Him and Adam Scott probably have the best swings.
I know what you meant though, but you can’t teach what Datsyuk or Malkin can do with the puck.
He does need some kind of mentor though and I feel like when the team hangs out together Artie gets left behind a bit. The guy can barely speak english it must be tough to fit in with everybody. I definitely think he should continue playing on the Russian WC teams and hopefully he can qualify for the Olympic team in 2014.
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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 22, 2012 2:00 PM EST up reply actions
theres a funny video of boyle jokingly mocking him
by saying common artie phrases, like you know score goals, play good defense then score goals.
but i have a feeling with Artie’s personality in consideration, he probably doesn’t understand 90% of the times they are messing with him and probably gets slightly depressed about it hahaha.
That’s my worry sometimes as well.
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Agreed.
Most teams have a few Russians guys, and usually don’t just have one younger one.
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Anisimov
to me, has that talent. Watch some of those goals he’s scored, like the one a year ago against Pitt where he literally takes it from the D zone through 5 Penguins and roofs it..I know it’s not a consistent in his game but just those little flashes of beauty could become more prevalent if he gets a bit more confidence and experience…Remember Datsyk didn’t start out firing, he had AA-like years before he became the monster he is now.
Artie to me is in the same mold as Datsyuk and one can only hope he can become even close to as good. The potential is definitely there.
by CrazyRangerFan on Feb 23, 2012 1:40 PM EST up reply actions
He did this past year and it has benefited him already. I get frustrated with him because he has so much skill. The big difference between AA and someone like WW is that AA will continue to work to get better while WW is a lazy stiff. All that “work” WW did in the offseason was a smoke screen as he has had exactly 28 minutes of ice time this year. WW = What a Waste.
AA also needs confidence. I was screaming at the game on Sunday when AA had the puck within 15-20 feet of the net with a clear shot on goal and passed to a teammate at the side of the net. Why? Shoot the damn puck. He’s got a great shot, let it go. AA thinks too much at times.
Agreed 100%
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Great Post
There is nothing not to love about Arti. He is a special player and a guy we want moving forward. He is only going to get better, and I think, given the right coaching and on-ice mentor, quite capable of being a legit top line center…yes I know he’s already doing that. My frustration is that he gets juggled around so much between lines, but that’s the way Torts does it and it isn’t going to change. In no way, shape or form should we deal him. Dubi is likely the piece to move either at the deadline or this summer, although I’d hate to see it. And that goal celebration was priceless! I want to see it again, only in Philly or Boston!
Just read this today
This is why I love you Moshe.
I have a man-crush on Anisimov
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Thank you guys for all of the feedback. I greatly appreciate it.
Hopefully this allowed everyone to talk about the players on their own team for a change!
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LOL Im so sick of talking about you know who….This has been the worst trade deadline with rumors since this site started….
by CrazyRangerFan on Feb 23, 2012 9:11 AM EST up reply actions
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Great write-up Mosher.
Glad that there are more than a few people around here that are willing to be patient with a guy like Anisimov. He has so much size and skill and has such a strong two-way game… he really deserves our patience because his potential for being a very, very big part of this team for years to come is very high.
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how beautiful is this shot
He has the capacity to do this
perfect shot
There are so many gems
Sometimes I just watch highlight goals of his on Youtube.
He’s still a kid—just 23! (What’s the average age of an NHL rookie, anyway?) And meanwhile he’s been a stalwart on the NYRs for years now.
I want to reiterate that...
I LOVE ARTY
I have a man-crush on Anisimov
Every time McDonagh plays a game in a Rangers jersey, a Canadiens fan sets a car on fire.
"I'm not a screamer or yeller. If I would try to scream and yell at people, it's not what I'd naturally do. So if I tried to do that, it would be awkward, I think." - Eli Manning
by Tripodi on Feb 23, 2012 5:30 PM EST reply actions 2 recs
comparing the numbers is one thing
but they are two very different players all things considered
@btown46
Overall
I think, Arty has more potential, defensively and offensively.
he has more potential
but we all know how far that can or can’t go….i don’t see him improving much more unless he gains some serious confidence in his stellar skill set…otherwise he will only be the good, serviceable player he is now. Callahan has blossomed because of his disposition and trust in his offensive game.
@btown46
maybe take some Datsyuk lessons in the summer
hahaha Pavel Datsyuk how to be a badass camp.
now that would be awesome.
I don’t see why not. A lot of players take mentors of the same nationality and improve their games that way.
Artie has more potential than Cally I think, and will probably end up being a very similar player production wise. Remember, he’s 3 years younger than Cally.
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