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Rangers Vs. Penguins: Fleury, Penguins Shutout and Shut Down Rangers 2-0

If you missed the New York Rangers loss to the Pittsburgh Penguins tonight, well....you didn't exactly miss much. The Rangers were out played, and in my opinion it looked like they were out worked throughout the entire game.

Marc-Andre Fleury had a terrific game, and the Rangers simply could not get the puck into the net. The power play was awful, and the penalty kill wasn't exactly amazing either.

Henrik Lundqvist was the King, but even he could not stop an Evgeni Malkin breakaway and a Steve Sullivan score. Not going to blame this one on Hank.

Anyway, there's not much more I can say about this loss, other than I fear it will lead the Rangers to make a stupid trade. The Rangers need a scorer, but not at the price of (insert name of often talked about Columbus Blue Jackets scorer) which is just too much.

Hopefully the Rangers come out firing vs. the Islanders on Friday, and hopefully the team doesn't make a mistake at the Deadline.

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Pretty much sums up how I think everybody played tonight.

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by Caerid11 on Feb 21, 2012 9:52 PM EST reply actions  

Crosby or no, Datsyuk or no...

Gonna be a tall task for NYR to beat the Ice Birds or the Wings in a playoff series, not cool

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by Kendrick Jay on Feb 21, 2012 9:54 PM EST reply actions  

Not shocked

Pittsburgh is good, really good, and this is WITHOUT Crosby.

Imagine if they were getting the bounces (or had Crosby back)? Woof.

by Rob L on Feb 21, 2012 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

Powerplay

You dont win the CUP with a Powerplay like this. Although they do pass very well

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by parrotinct on Feb 21, 2012 9:56 PM EST reply actions  

boston was like 2 for 40 in the playoffs last year. not saying the PP doesnt need to get better but its possible to survive if its terrible

by nyrangerfan521 on Feb 21, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Boston also had really good 5v5 scoring, which negated the need for a PP. Vancouver was, IIRC, like .95 or something 5v5, which means they gave up a couple of goals more than they scored 5v5, but their PP was over 20%.

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by Caerid11 on Feb 21, 2012 10:17 PM EST up reply actions  

I dont want our future guys taken from us

But we are not gonna win playing like straight up ass

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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 21, 2012 10:09 PM EST via mobile reply actions  

Carter hat trick
Nash goal, assist
Prospal 3 assists

tonight for the Jackets…

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by BleedsRangerBlue on Feb 21, 2012 10:12 PM EST reply actions  

Hmmm.

Dubi, AA, MDZ, 1st, 3rd, St. Croix, Valentenko

for those 3 players.

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by Caerid11 on Feb 21, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Wolski too.

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by Caerid11 on Feb 21, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions  

Sather well get him for half of that

by nyr121 on Feb 21, 2012 11:04 PM EST up reply actions  

Alot of things were missing from their game tonight. They didn’t play like the normal Rangers we are used to seeing. Oh well, take it out on the Islanders Friday!

by Andrew Graziano on Feb 21, 2012 10:12 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

was gonna just say that this is the sort of loss that makes a team make a big move

I dunno that one player will make them beat a team like the Pens either. The spacing on the power play is still a problem, you can tell when looking at the pens how they space out and move the puck.

Then again, the regular season generally means nothing, so hopefully they don’t panic and make a big dumb move.

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 21, 2012 10:13 PM EST reply actions  

They need a shock

I suggest going around the locker room and kicking everyone in the nuts.

by Steeeve on Feb 21, 2012 10:16 PM EST via Android app reply actions  

If you guys think that we can go far with a subpar offensive team your wrong !

Line 1 – Gas line isn’t bad and they have been playing well but ultimately i think gabby needs to be on the line with Richards. Some of the passes that richards gives to cally , gabby would bury them. Do they score goals ? A good amount of the time

Line 2- Love richards , cally and hags but hags needs at least another year of experience. I love the kid and have no doubt in my mind that hell be a top 6 forward but right now he is not ! Do they score goals ? A good amount of the time

Line 3 – Pure defensive line that has spurts of offense once in a while.
Do they score goals? Once in a blue moon

Line 4- The 4 minute a game line. This line has been completely useless the past couple of games. Do they score goals? As often as we see Rinaldo doing something dirty.

Prognosis : Whether its Nash, Carter, Ruutu, Seleanne, Gretzky, Anson Carter, or even Barack Obama , we need a offensive punch at the deadline to push for the Cup . If we do not move our pieces and acquire another offensive threat then we will be contenders for a while but nothing more. Lundqvist cant score goals every night !!!

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by Fire Renneyy on Feb 21, 2012 10:21 PM EST reply actions  

we need Richard Park

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by Rorschach44 on Feb 21, 2012 10:22 PM EST up reply actions  

This is the exact problem with the 4th line philosophy of this team. It’s nice that Rupp and Bickel are truculent, but it’s not helping much else.

There’s no reason we couldn’t use Wolski or MZA or some other source of offense to play on the 3rd line, while Fed-Boyle-Prust can take their defensive talents to the 4th line. No, Dubinsky isn’t scoring, but he’s not even being asked to at this point, they’re deploying him defensively. and that’s something that could be corrected.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 21, 2012 10:43 PM EST up reply actions  

Were basically running a two offensive line strategy, which is a game plan for disaster. If one of the lines is having a bad night or is being taken out of the game by the opposing teams top defensive pairing then we are down to one offensive scoring line which doesn’t increase our chances of winning.

Its like we have two defensive lines and put all our pressure on Hank , who has been a wall for us this season , helping us soar to the top.

Dont get mad at me for this because i do love my rangers , but if Hank was having a average year we’d be in the 6-8th playoff spot discussion right now!!!

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by Fire Renneyy on Feb 21, 2012 10:48 PM EST up reply actions  

Dont get mad at me for this because i do love my rangers , but if Hank was having a average year we’d be in the 6-8th playoff spot discussion right now!!!

Why would I get mad at that? I’ve been saying the same thing roughly all season.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 21, 2012 10:54 PM EST up reply actions  

you know all the bashers who want to bash you right away if you say something negative about our team.

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by Fire Renneyy on Feb 21, 2012 10:55 PM EST up reply actions  

LOL!

That could be said for EVERY season post-lockout. C’mon! :)

by mgweissman on Feb 22, 2012 2:53 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah you are right. I remember myself saying last year that the only reason we are in 1st is because of Hank.

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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 22, 2012 4:15 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m furious, and near banning him!

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by Brandon C. on Feb 22, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions  

Prior to this year and even in the beginning of this year, I thought the Rangers were a bubble team at best. Even through some of their earlier winning streaks, it just seemed like the wheels would come off at some point. I’m not a Nash/ Carter advocate. But I definitely think they need to do something.Maybe not something that dramatic, but something. They can’t hang this all on Hanks shoulders.

by Dizzybizzy on Feb 22, 2012 9:00 AM EST up reply actions  

I think these lines would be good.

GAS Line

Hagelin-Richards-Cally

Mitchell-Dubinsky-MZA (I’m really done with Wolski and I think he belongs with the Kotaliks, Antropovs, and Zherdevs of this world)

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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 21, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions  

I’d actually flip MZA and Hagelin there, but certainly preferable to what we’ve been doing.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 21, 2012 10:56 PM EST up reply actions  

I mean thats a rough line up

This team has plenty of grinders it’s time to start scoring.

How can Dubinsky expect to score if he’s playing with Boyle and Prust? It’s because he’s paired with him Torts has to ice Rupp for 5 minutes a night thus making Mitchell useless as well and Bickel too.

Maybe when Feds gets back Torts will change it up a bit, but Torts is not putting some players in a position to contribute at the moment.

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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 21, 2012 11:00 PM EST up reply actions  

Just to rebuttal the other point. I get being done with Wolski, I really do, but I have no clue how a team struggling for offense continues to use a defensive d-man as their 12th forward over a guy with a history of putting up 40 points in the league.

It’s just mind-boggling.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 21, 2012 11:05 PM EST up reply actions  

I guess torts figures if he's going to play him 5 minutes a night

What’s the difference on who he plays?

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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 21, 2012 11:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Well that is a whole different point. I understand you want Bickel in for Jam and toughness but why play him against Chicago, CBJ, or Pittsburgh.. Its not NJ or Philly so why do we need bickel because other then jam and toughness thats all he brings.
Obv put in Wolski cause he has more offensive upside then bickel . I agree with you George i dont get that move.
Another thing is Rupp i dont care what people say but he is entirely useless and other then the Winter Classic , i dont see any more success from him in our future! Bench his ASSS !!!

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by Fire Renneyy on Feb 21, 2012 11:14 PM EST up reply actions  

he’s role player not a goal scorer

by nyr121 on Feb 21, 2012 11:18 PM EST up reply actions  

if he scores it’s a pluss

by nyr121 on Feb 21, 2012 11:19 PM EST up reply actions  

he is oblivious to what his role is because on a nightly basis , i dont know what the hell he is doing when hes out there for 4 minutes.

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by Fire Renneyy on Feb 21, 2012 11:23 PM EST up reply actions  

it’s checking and protecting better players in his team

by nyr121 on Feb 21, 2012 11:26 PM EST up reply actions  

They prob want to add him in a trade and you know how soft his balls are and they dont want him pulling anything again.

If come deadline he is still here he will be reinserted into the line up just wait and see. They just want him healthy for now.

Btw even him doing jack shit in the booth is better then Rosival so I don’t care what anyone says

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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 22, 2012 12:15 AM EST via mobile up reply actions  

I think Wolski doesnt play becuase Torts doesnt trust him at all on the defensive end. He doesn’t hit, hes lazy on defense. And Torts puts emphasis on defense. I think its that simple.

It doesnt matter anyway, Wolsi is no savior for this team. They need a true goal scorer. period. There is no way around it. Especially since Gaborik has all but disappeared on the goal colum. He was at one time tied with Stamkos and now Stamkos has 20 more goals than him. Im not saying he been awful becuase he does other things but hes paid to score goals and hes had like 3 in the last 12-14 I believe. If he struggles were screwed.

And think about this. If Crosby comes back they have way too much firepower for us to handle. We can barely handle them now if at all. The Devils are hot, have 2 top notch goal scorers. And the Bruins have really balanced scoring.

They have to do something.

by DieselCane22 on Feb 22, 2012 8:47 AM EST up reply actions  

Gabby has had 16 points in the last 16 games, and we were shut out in 2 of those games. I would say he is doing what he is paid to do.

I’d love for him to score 40 goals this year also, but he is being dragged down by the rest of the team. Also, he has always scored in spurts. If he has a 35-35-70 season, I would say we have gotten our money’s worth and he did his part at least. But as you said, we need balanced scoring and we cannot rely on him to make up all/25% of our offense.

by BigB22 on Feb 22, 2012 9:14 AM EST up reply actions  

He only has 3 goals in the last 13 games. That isnt good enough but he cant be the only one who scores. NOONE else on the team is really a goal scorer per se. Callahan is great and will always probably put in 20-30 but he’s no sniper. The Rangers must have another goal scorer or they have almost no chance to win the cup barring a a ridiculous, miraculous effort by 30 IMO. It can happen but its unlikely.

by DieselCane22 on Feb 22, 2012 9:21 AM EST up reply actions  

So wait….Gabby with 35g 70p is a fair value but Nash with the same stats and $300k more is grossly overpaid?

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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 22, 2012 9:22 AM EST up reply actions  

I feel the same way as you. I dont think so. 70 points an 7.8 million is the new 90-100 points it seems.

by DieselCane22 on Feb 22, 2012 9:24 AM EST up reply actions  

agreed

but of course most think he won’t keep up that pace nor do they think having another large contract is worth having.

by jdileone9 on Feb 22, 2012 9:31 AM EST up reply actions  

I don’t think that people want 2 players underachieving for that kind of money, and 4 players making up about 45% of the cap space. But imo, they both get paid in the 80-100 pt. area, not in the 60-70 pt..

by Dizzybizzy on Feb 22, 2012 9:36 AM EST up reply actions  

Really dont want to turn this into a Nash post again but it has been stated a few times that you are talking about those contracts overlapping for 2 years.

And coincidentally those 2 years are our best chance of winning the cup.

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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 22, 2012 9:45 AM EST up reply actions  

Another good point. And it is likely there will be some type of amnesty in the next CBA and that would allow you to shed at least one of Gabo, Richards or Nash/Carter/Whomever at that time.

by DieselCane22 on Feb 22, 2012 9:48 AM EST up reply actions  

I’m not very comfortable with likely an amnesty period. You never know. I think the fact that people have been circumventing the cap since the last CBA may play a role in any amnesty period.

by Dizzybizzy on Feb 22, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

I highly doubt any sane person would trade a boatload of assets for someone only to dump them for nothing.

A more plausible scenario is cap ceiling going up giving you more room or a roll-back in salary or being able to exempt one contract.

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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 22, 2012 9:54 AM EST up reply actions  

But again this is based on the assumption the cap goes up. My gut feeling is owners are going into this CBA screaming that the cap has risen too much, too fast already. The Cap has gone up significantly every year with the exception of 1. (It still went up, but not very much. I believe it was a few 100k. ) Everything has a ceiling , I think the up, up , up trend has to stop at some point. Even the mighty NFL took a cap reduction in the latest CBA from in 2011 from 2009.

by Dizzybizzy on Feb 22, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

Also have to look at the NBA and NFL labor deals where the players got less of the pie. Chances are good that the cap can go down, yet there won’t be salary rollbacks (the NHLPA would probably rather scrap a season than allow that). Which makes the bigger contracts even worse in comparison.

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by Caerid11 on Feb 22, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

Im not advocating dropping Nash. I think its most likely Richards would become an amnesty casualty. he is the oldest and hes not a goal scorer. With that being said, there is also alot of talk about th owners leveling the slaray cap off with no Increases BUT they want ONE contract per year, per team to NOT count against the cap so if that happens we are also fine. It is likely that this or amnesty or both happen in the next CBA.

by DieselCane22 on Feb 22, 2012 10:22 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah a franchise player clause is a possibility, that would help.

by BigB22 on Feb 22, 2012 10:55 AM EST up reply actions  

yeah that was my point too. gabby only has two years left and i doubt if we re-sign him he’ll have a cap hit of $7.5 again. there are so many unknowns in two years from now and by moving dubinsky you’re only adding $3.6 million in cap for the next few years.

by jdileone9 on Feb 22, 2012 9:58 AM EST up reply actions  

I think there is pretty much 0 chance that we would trade for Nash, play him for 3 months, and then spend $32 million to buy him out. Pretty sure that is one deal Dolan would not be cool with. But one of the other two could be amnesty victims anyway. Hopefully, not wasted on Redden, he can rot in Hartford or walk away and actually play NHL hockey somewhere.

by BigB22 on Feb 22, 2012 10:54 AM EST up reply actions  

He’s no savior persay, but when you’re trading 15 goals for 2-3 in various points in the lineup, it’s damaging. It’s not like Rupp is some defensive superstar, often times when he’s out there they spend a whole shift pinned in the defensive end.

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by George E. Ays on Feb 22, 2012 5:11 PM EST up reply actions  

Looks good to me. That’s why a move for any of those rentals could be nice, as they might finally force Rupp out of the lineup.

I don’t see what he brings.

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by Moshe52792 on Feb 22, 2012 1:29 AM EST up reply actions  

I agree with the Rupp statement, I am just not sure a rental is what is needed to push Rupp out. For some reason Torts likes him in the lineup. He is definitely a good role player and I bet he is a good locker room guy for a fairly young team. IMO, aside from his size, on the ice he doesn’t bring much. Sure he is an enforcing presence but this team will not miss him, especially with the likes of Bickel and Prust who can take care of business.

An intersting note is the the current roster has 7 natural Centers in AA, Step, Richards, Dubi, Mitchell, Boyle, and Rupp. I am completely aware Torts is moving these guys around and trying out different combinations with success, however, for a team that lacks a real offensive punch I think this should be addressed. Rupp is the one in this group who I believe needs to sit a bit.

As far as Dubi is concerned, I feel he isn’t being given the right pieces to work with for a long enough time to gel. Dubi needs to be on a line with some skilled players. He will grind in the corners and work hard on the forecheck and I think would really do much better with a finisher on his line (We saw flashes of it with Jagr). It just seems like he is just being hung out to dry on a grinding line. I also believe that this can’t be an easy time for him and I bet come Feb. 27th if he isn’t traded we will be seeing a much calmer Dubi.

by Frac You on Feb 22, 2012 9:09 AM EST up reply actions  

The only punch Obama will bring is to their financials. He may bring an empty pocket full of "hope"as well.

by Dizzybizzy on Feb 22, 2012 8:26 AM EST up reply actions  

Atrocious game, Hate when they play like that.

by 68 Forever on Feb 21, 2012 10:22 PM EST reply actions  

We have Bickel for offense. oof! lol

by mike1967 on Feb 21, 2012 10:23 PM EST reply actions  

Do we have any Harvard graduate Asian-Americans in our AHL system that can come out of nowhere?

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by Stepan's Sister on Feb 21, 2012 10:27 PM EST reply actions  

Sather is currently on the phone with howson right now

by justink on Feb 21, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

I guess this means we are in store for another two days of constant Rick Nash threads.

by jillywilly on Feb 21, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

Fml

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by Papa T on Feb 21, 2012 10:39 PM EST via mobile up reply actions  

Great so now Stralman and Eminger are in chateau bow wow

Where are all the people saying we don’t need a depth defenseman because our defense is so perfect?

I’m so ready to make that deal for Rick Nash after this game it’s unbelievable. I really hope Sather doesn’t feel the same way though and could hold back his emotions better than I can.

Dubinsky? Are you out there?

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by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 21, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

Still leading the east,don’t panic…not gonna win every game it is the NHL.They have been having trouble with Devils and Shi#sburgh lately because of good goal tending but this is Hank’s year in a series against these teams they will be better…I just hope Sather isn’t gonna hit the panic button and sell the farm!

by tommyo28 on Feb 21, 2012 10:36 PM EST reply actions  

That picture of Torts is an oldie but goodie, missing is the “Who hit what and ran?” look on Drury’s face sitting right in front of him

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by Jim Schmiedeberg on Feb 21, 2012 10:53 PM EST reply actions  

Lackluster effort

I’m one of the few here that likes the idea of adding Nash to this lineup, but I know I’m the minority

by Guess Who's Back? on Feb 21, 2012 11:21 PM EST reply actions  

I think we can afford it and I think he’s the best guy on the market as far as I can tell. But then again, I liked Nash before all of this talk started.

by voice22 on Feb 22, 2012 12:10 AM EST up reply actions  

I'm fine with him but...

…just don’t want to give up the ship for him, that’s all. Dubi, an AHLer and a FUTURE pick or 2 at most, but that won’t cut it probably. Anything more is not worth it.

by mgweissman on Feb 22, 2012 2:54 AM EST up reply actions  

"he’s the best guy on the market"

The same mentality that landed us the likes of Holik, Drury, Gomez, Redden, et al.

If we’re going to improve, make sure it’s the right player and not simply the “best available”.

by Kritikal on Feb 22, 2012 4:23 PM EST up reply actions   1 recs

+1

but I think Nash could be a ‘right’ choice.

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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 23, 2012 4:05 AM EST up reply actions  

Richards

Richards was awful, not that anyone else was much better. I’m sure he knows that when you actually watch the defenseman rush the puck, right in front of you, you don’t follow him into the zone, you cover. Geez, I learned that in hockey camp when I was 14.

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by dsteak on Feb 21, 2012 11:40 PM EST reply actions  

Richards

Has been a dissapointment this year. But I still hold out hope he’ll get hot during this playoff push

by Guess Who's Back? on Feb 22, 2012 12:49 AM EST up reply actions  

True but...

…at the same time, he probably didn’t think DZ as a rushing D-man just over the line would BLINDLY toss a backhand prayer to a group of players that include the opposition…AND his fellow D-partner?! For once I agree with Torts calling Michael out publicly for that bonehead move.

MDZ has played way beyond expectations this season, for sure, but that one was a major head-scratcher. He should’ve carried it in deep along the boards, and Richie would’ve manned his point for sure. But instead, that pass attempt trapped everyone, not just BR.

by mgweissman on Feb 22, 2012 3:01 AM EST up reply actions  

Yeah, horrible play but he is growing. I can imagine that 2 years from now as a “seasoned” 23 year old we are going to be looking at a very solid, well-rounded defender.

by BigB22 on Feb 22, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Devils 7 points away from 1st and on a 4 game winning streak

I can see us totally bombing the rest of the season and the Devils going from last (beginning of the season) to first within a few weeks beating us and winning the cup. That will have me kicking and screaming and saying everyone should be traded. Yeah……worse thing that could happen in my mind.

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by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 22, 2012 12:08 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

I'm actually worried about these bastards

the Rangers haven’t been able to beat them the last few times out…not good.

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by feslenraster on Feb 22, 2012 8:37 AM EST up reply actions  

A little change...of lines..might help

Yes I agree..Richards should play with Gabby..as least for a couple of games..and see..Hagelin is quick but need more experience..Dubi.?? i don,t know.I like him,…and now that trade…who knows what Sather will do..Rangers need to score!!!! To be successful in play-offs they need to score goals..image playing them against Penguins..like today…and i don,t want to talk about it…Go Rangers!!!

by captain_ivo on Feb 22, 2012 12:15 AM EST reply actions  

San Jose just jumped on the Nash train

Apparently Thornton and Nash old friends and there highly interested in him. He’s going to LA or San Jose definitely unless he actually really wants to play for the rangers because of how close we are to the Cup.

"It's a big game no matter where it's being played."-#19 B.Richards

by -19-AgainstAll on Feb 22, 2012 12:18 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Line-up change.

Anisimov Richards Gaborik
Hagelin Stepan Callahan
Wolski Dubinsky Mitchell
Fedotenko Boyle Prust

Sure, it takes away some toughness, but this team needs to put some pucks in the net. This at least gives us four lines who have the ability to score. Shit, break em up however you want, I just don’t want Rupp and Bickel as forwards, at all.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Feb 22, 2012 1:35 AM EST reply actions  

Part of me

wants to completly forget the consequences of getting Nash and just get him…..but I will still be really upset if it happens

by Prustyballs94 on Feb 22, 2012 1:43 AM EST via Android app reply actions  

I am totally against getting him, BUT if Sather could pull off a magical trade that only gives up Dubi off the roster, and protect just Kreider and Erixon, I would be for it and would not care how many assets it gave up… shit, give them 5-6 things, just not those 2 or roster players.

by BigB22 on Feb 22, 2012 9:18 AM EST up reply actions  

And so the scorer comments begin.

"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."

LET'S GO RANGERS!!!

by Moshe52792 on Feb 22, 2012 1:56 AM EST reply actions  

That Malkin goal is abominable.

I just caught the game and here’s the screenshots that are the epitome of the night.

This is Letang springing Malkin. Both Stralman (he’s in the circle) and Del Zotto (he’s between the hash marks) are in the shot.

Who is circled in this shot? Ryan Callahan, and no one else is close.

Yeah, that shouldn’t happen.

"You don't know when to keep your mouth shut, do you, Saxxy Boy?"

by Five-Tool Tool on Feb 22, 2012 2:33 AM EST reply actions   1 recs

because richards watched the D rush and didn’t cover, he followed them into the zone. he’s supposed to stay back and cover.

Shoot the puck Barry!!!

Kick save AND A BEAUTY by Giacomin!

by dsteak on Feb 22, 2012 11:44 AM EST up reply actions  

It was just a massive fail by Richards and BOTH D. Malkin’s line is on the ice, your sole responsibility is not allowing what actually happened. If you’re on D, chip the puck in, don’t rush, no blind passes, and if you’re a forward and you can SEE both D past the hash-marks…you don’t follow them in like a lemming.

Rick Nash Banter
"Oils like he's getting a himmer!"

by Caerid11 on Feb 22, 2012 11:58 AM EST up reply actions  

Gotta make a deal

If we have a contending team that is as close as the Rangers are we have to make a move to get scoring. Nobody wants to give away top prospects or a heart and soul player like Dubi but the goal is to get to hold up the cup. Why wait a few years to see if the prospects pan out if we can trade them for a possible cup run this year and get a proven star who can help up win it now? Bring on Nash!

by PureBlue on Feb 22, 2012 3:27 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

Rick Nash would have beaten the Pens.

by The Richards-Gaborik Connection on Feb 22, 2012 7:23 AM EST via mobile reply actions  

all kidding aside, any fans not thinking that we don’t need more scoring is deluding themselves. doesn’t have to be Nash but they need something.

by Richter1994 on Feb 22, 2012 7:56 AM EST up reply actions  

its called a DECENT ---- power play

in all my years of watching this team I’ve never seen it as bad as it is this year. WTH is going on ?!

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Feb 22, 2012 8:35 AM EST up reply actions  

i feel myself yelling at the tv every time they pass it.. they gotta stop trying to be cute. So hesitant to shoot and by the time they do it gets blocked.

by jdileone9 on Feb 22, 2012 8:59 AM EST up reply actions  

I know

you’d think it’s as simple as “put the damned puck to the effin net!” just shoooooot it. crazy how this team lapses into bad habits

"Fantasy, reality, science Fiction. Which is which? Who can tell?"

by feslenraster on Feb 22, 2012 10:19 AM EST up reply actions  

well think about it.. richards del zotto and stepan are all pass first guys. gabby looks for his shot which is typically not there so he passes he off anyway… and callahan is usually positioned in front of the net. we need someone with a shoot first mentality even if theres not a clear lane.

by jdileone9 on Feb 22, 2012 11:31 AM EST up reply actions  

oops. passes it off*

by jdileone9 on Feb 22, 2012 11:32 AM EST up reply actions  

that is a big part of it and I agree, watching the Rangers since 1967 I cannot remember a worse PP, even on bad Ranger teams.

by Richter1994 on Feb 22, 2012 9:16 AM EST up reply actions  

Lines

Stepan – Richards – Gaborik
Dubinsky – Anisimov – Callahan
Hagelin – Mitchell – Wolski
Fedotenko/Rupp – Boyle – Prust

-Keep Richards and Gaborik together, that’s why the Rangers brought in Richards to get Gaborik going again.
—The Dubinsky/Anisimov/Callahan line was dynamite last year, let’s bring it back.
-
Third line is whatever, Hagelin and Mitchell played well earlier in the year, give Wolski a chance to redeem himself with some guys who have some offensive game
— Checking line, last year these guys were excellent together. They played killer D and surprised just about everyone offensively.

\

by Nnamdi Asomugha on Feb 22, 2012 8:11 AM EST reply actions  

if we don't make a move at the deadline

and as much as i hate to say it… bring up wolski and mza.

Hagelin-Richards-Gaborik
Dubinsky-Anisimov-Cally
Wolski-Stepan-Zuccarello
Feds-Boyle-Prust

Reunite the pack line and WW Step and MZA had some chemistry for a string of games last year.

by jdileone9 on Feb 22, 2012 8:56 AM EST reply actions  

ive been saying this from early on, not only is out PP ineffective in terms of production, but it kills any momentum we have on our side. if we’ve got momentum going into the PP its almost surely gone after its said and done. This team needs more and I think it can come in the form of an offensive minded d man who can shoot the puck 1) hard and 2) on net. We don’t have a shooter that we can put on the PP, period. Richards taking one timers is not going to cut it

by rmg10 on Feb 22, 2012 9:00 AM EST reply actions  

I know it is way too easy to throw Dubinsky under the bus, but seriously… I know a lot of players on the team are not producing as they should, and that he is stuck on the 3rd line, but come on. His ineffectiveness bugs me more than anyone else. Some days I feel like it would be horrible to trade him, heart and soul, brought up here and should go as far as the team goes the next few years… and other days, I am pretty much done with him.

by BigB22 on Feb 22, 2012 9:21 AM EST reply actions  

I am a huge Dubi fan, but here are the hard, cold facts: he has exactly 14 goals from January 1, 2011 until today. 14. PK, defense, whatever, this production does not justify a $4.2M cap hit. Patience? ok, when does it turn around? again, and I’m a big fan of his but time to see results. when the Rangers are winning a slew of one goal games and going into OT against the CBJs then you point to a player like Dubi and say that’s where a big part of the problem is.

by Richter1994 on Feb 22, 2012 9:46 AM EST up reply actions  

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