Blogs: Then what's the point?
by Richter1994 on Feb 5, 2012 7:55 AM EST
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PrintI am 52 years of age so I have been on both sides of the "technology" progressions. Meaning I have been on the side where there was very little technology available for "average folk" and I have been fortunate to see where we are now, where nothing is kept secret and technology is available to just about everyone that wants it.
One of the rages that have come out of the age of technology are "blogs." We all like to BS, lol. We all like to give our opinions. We all like to sound like we know what we are talking about, more so than the next person. Blogs relating to sports, politics, the environment, entertainment, etc. etc. etc. have consumed our lives in some way. But in reality, what does it mean? Absolutely nothing. Blogs present a forum for discussion that have zero bearing on anyone's lives, we hope. So why participate in them?
Being a Ranger fan since 1967, I love talking about the Rangers, reading about them, posting about them, etc. I came on this site in October, 2010, or thereabouts. I love the Banter. There is a lot of participation. A lot of opinions and a lot of comments. That's all good. The bad part comes in when posters feel the need to disparage another poster's comments. Why? There is a big difference between disagreeing with the poster and outright trashing them. If I want to say: "I know for a fact that this trade will happen" then who cares what I say? You have 3 choices: Don't read my posts, read it and don't comment, or read it and post a comment that's appropriate. Trust me, what I have to say on this blog is not changing anyone's lives. I try to do that in other ways outside of my career.
So what's the point of a blog? To have fun with the topic of the blog, in this case the Rangers. For a large number of Ranger fans to come together and have a "discussion" about our team. It is a "release" from our day to day lives and to hopefully relieve the stress we all endure in our own ways, not to create more. So when someone posts something that sounds "ridiculous" then there is no need to trash that person like they just committed a crime. Just move on or simply disagree because in the grand scheme of things, what we say hear is BS anyway and meaningless. You know, the same "BS" posters like to call other posters that say "ridiculous" things. But then I say, ridiculous to who? That's a matter of opinion. Let's go Rangers!! (that we all agree on).
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What’s worse than others trashing comments is having the editors delete comments they don’t “agree with.” That IMO depletes the purpose of a blog even more.
Hey Spartacus,
The comments that get deleted, at least for me and every editor I know are deleted not because we “don’t agree with them” it is because they contain something that is inappropriate and can get the site shut down or get us kicked out of our jobs. I don’t think we delete delete comments that we don’t agree with, I know that I certainly don’t. If it is has ever happened to you it isn’t acceptable and you should email one of the editors about it.
@DigDeepNYR
"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
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Well, it hasn’t happened to me on this site.
But on a lot of cites its a common occurrence.
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
I am going to start deleting your comments because I am tired of looking at your cute dopey-faced dog.
@DigDeepNYR
"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
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Sorry for the lack of explanation Dig, I had to run some errands before going to MSG today. I was speaking in general about blogs, not this site in particular I apologize for the lack of elaboration. However, playing devils advocate, “inappropriate” can vary from person to person and I have seen comments taken off of this website because an editor may have been a little trigger happy (IMO) with what is “appropriate.” When there are comments taken off after a disagreement or dispute it completely ruins the flow of what once was an argument between two fans. It makes provoked responses look unprovoked. I cannot remember the actual thread but I do recall it happening.
by I.Am.Spartacus on Feb 5, 2012 5:24 PM EST up reply actions
In all honesty though dig, if you guys made it more clear that you need to use a black box or water mark to hide penetration in photos containing animals there would be A LOT less confusion and anger over comments that are removed. Am I right?
Hit the nail on the head Buck.
@DigDeepNYR
"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
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There's criticism and then there's being an asshole and troll
I’ve seen a lot of criticism on someone’s post including my own but I haven’t seen anyone cross the line and do any personal attacks on anyone.
Personally for me if I see someone that posts something regarding the direction of the team that’s pretty insane I just ignore it entirely. Because I know someone (Most of the time it’s george) will refute that person and save me the trouble. I don’t really reply to people with insane thoughts as it just gives me a headache.
"Anson Carter is a highly skilled, versatile player who we feel will play a very significant role on our team this season. He is a very intelligent player who brings a strong presence and leadership qualities." - Sather
"He's the best first passer in the game. He moves the puck up exceptionally."- Sather on signing Wade Redden
"If you look through the NHL, there aren't many players with his type of ability; he has superstar ability."- Sather on signing Vladimir Malakhov
by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 5, 2012 9:42 AM EST reply actions
Thank the hockey gods for George.
@DigDeepNYR
"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
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I understand your point, but if you were to say “I know for a fact that this trade will happen” when you dont really know, people will get on you for lying, spreading false info etc. The problem is lots of people visit lots of Rangers sites and if you post something that instead of opinion comes across as you pushing “fact” that “fact” is eventually going to float around to other sites and people.
Unless of course you throw in sarcasm tags or whatever.
Plus it’s not always going to be “rainbows and unicorns” just like normal human interactions there’s going to be people who “poke at you” or who are just busting your balls.
It happens, probably more so online, because people grow a set of internet balls.
But yea, I always appreciate everyone’s opinion, even FrankieC’s….but dont get offended if I laugh at that opinion, it doesnt mean I appreciate it any less.
Anyway I rushed this post as I’m on my way to the ranger game, only been a fan since ’84 so i guess my info is less valuable than yours (see what I did there o.O)
Yeah we have seen about 5 people with an “inside source” post supposedly exclusive info the past few days, so people may be a bit tired of it. I guess 1 person will be right and can later say “I told you so”…
Also, Richter1994, your main argument is “Hey, it’s a blog, what’s the point?!” Well, I am sure you know by now that blogs are the breeding ground for internet tough guys and anonymous personal attacks. It comes with the territory, and if you post on a blog you need to have tough skin and expect to be criticized a bit.
trust me, I can take the criticism, that’s not an issue, but what RichieToGabby said above is the point. criticism = ok, bulliness and personal attacks from behind a computer screen = coward and unacceptable. if anyone disputes what I have to say then I have zero problem with it. I have clients that I have to answer to that are a lot more brutal than the people on this blog. I speak more to courtesy than criticism. but your point is reality and unfortunately part of the deal. I have alluded to having some information that many people are not privy to. if you don’t believe me then that’s your prerogative but it doesn’t make me or you a bad person either. and you not believing it doesn’t make it not so either. It was just something I wanted to get out of my system is all and hopefully make people more aware of how they react to others. Again, just my opinion. thanks for reading my post.
do you live outside of ny? idk how you can go so long w/o going to msg
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 5, 2012 10:56 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
"I know for a fact that this trade will happen" when you dont really know
Tek-Eklund’s made a career out of this though.
Absolute Worst Ranger Fan!!!!!!....yet incredibly realistic and usually correct.
I apologize for the length of this post
Hey Richter1994,
I saw some of the comments in This Thread between you and Kevin and I tried to connect it to what you are posting in this FanShot.
. I love the Banter. There is a lot of participation. A lot of opinions and a lot of comments. That’s all good. The bad part comes in when posters feel the need to disparage another poster’s comments. Why? There is a big difference between disagreeing with the poster and outright trashing them. If I want to say: “I know for a fact that this trade will happen” then who cares what I say? You have 3 choices: Don’t read my posts, read it and don’t comment, or read it and post a comment that’s appropriate.
First, I am glad you love Blueshirt Banter. We are more than happy to have members like you who are opinionated and are clearly great people away from this silly computer world we all talk on.
I know this is going to sound like me, a 26 year old, teaching etiquette to a 52 year old, but I assure that is not my intention. You have to try and understand that we want people to disagree. We want there to be healthy debate and discussion. We have to value diversity in ideas and opinions because diversity in these things makes not only for great entertainment but it creates an environment where we can learn more about what we are discussing. At times are disagreements rude or not terribly constructive? Unfortunately yes. Though I think it doesn’t happen often and if it is egregiously rude or inappropriate that person will be talked to by the editors and Joe (even if he is an editor).
You are absolutely right, this is just a silly blog and the things that happen here don’t matter at all. A lot of people are terribly stubborn and want to assert their opinion and “rightness” to the point of being obnoxious and arrogant. If you feel like this is a growing trend I will do my best to keep an eye on it. If you have any questions or concerns or comments you can always email anyone of the editors or Joe himself. If you ever want to email me to just say, “Fuck you Dig Deep, you aren’t as funny as you think,” I’ll listen and respond to your email because I take this silly blog seriously and I want everyone to feel welcome here and not be afraid to share how they feel or how they think about the sport and team that we all love.
I am sure you understand the delicate balance between a person asserting their opinion and a person being stubborn, and I am sure you understand why someone might immediately gun down an opinion if they feel like they’ve been hearing about it for the last 15 years and are really, really tired of hearing about something like a “conspiracy against the New York Rangers.” Again, if you want to talk in private about any issues or problems you are having please shoot me, Joe, or any other Editor an email. Thanks.
And seriously, fuck that Dig Deep guy. He isn’t as funny as he thinks he is.
@DigDeepNYR
"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
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I am glad I showed you the light brother… now hold me.
@DigDeepNYR
"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
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thank you for your comment. actually my post this morning had nothing to do with my exchange with Kevin, it’s coincidental, honest. I used the “I have knowledge” responses as an example of the 3 ways to react to a post. but what I wrote about has been on my mind for quite a while and I decided to throw it out there for something a little different as opposed to the incessant trade talk we all have participated in (I am a big offender, lol). I say this with all sincerity, I respect all, editors, writers, posters, long-time ranger fans, new ranger fans, non-ranger fans, etc. it’s about perspective. believe me, go to Carp’s blog and they are like wolves at feeding. terrible. that’s not here, just don’t want it to turn into there.
I assure that as long as I am here and there are good people with more laughter than ugliness in their hearts running the place it won’t ever turn into a gladiatorial games of who can be more stubborn and more loud about the nonsense they spout.
Can people be more courteous to one another? Yes, and they should be. I try to be as courteous as I can be to not only set an example but because I think it is the right way to handle it. We all love the same team and the same sport, that some of us can get mad at each other and disrespect one another is beyond stupid to me.
@DigDeepNYR
"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
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Oh, and sorry for linking your discussion with Kevin to this. My bad. I just saw the exchange you had with him and I thought it ended with some tension.
@DigDeepNYR
"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
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no not at all. I like Kevin’s posts a lot and I can understand anyone’s doubting reaction to any comment that has “with knowledge” attached to it. in the case of Ranger bias that I have been saying, I know someone that works in the league office. I would never divulge the name or even imply what that person does for fear of their job. but suffice it to say that it is real (the bias). when Shanahan will not take a photo with a fan in front of a picture of him in a Ranger jersey then that tells you all you need to know, lol.
there are 3 reasons why the league, more specifically Bettman, has a “thing” for the Rangers: it goes back to the Sakic offer sheet back in the 90s, the FA signings that basically forced a cap league, and more importantly, the Rangers are rebels. They do what they want, how they want to do it, specifically how they market themselves. Bettman likes everyone to do things his way and the Rangers are the “black sheep” of the league so he doesn’t like it.
the 3 “darlings” are the Flyers, Pens and Wings. wonder why ESPN is not doing any games anymore? Versus is owned by Comcast. Ed Snider, the owner of the Flyers, is the Chairman of Comcast. get it? when it came to the WC national coverage, you barely heard about the Rangers. it was all Flyers all the time. they even glorified those thugs of the 70s like they were Nobel Peace Prize recipients. it’s disgusting and we will see how today’s game will be officiated. one of these days the officiating will cost the Rangers a big game or an injury. Cooke getting nothing for slewfooting BR and Malkin getting nothing for lowbridging in the same game is beyond disgraceful. does it really take a bad injury to get a suspension when the Rangers are involved?
The WC officiating in those last 5 minutes were about as blatant acts of “cheating” as I have ever seen. and how does a ref, with past connections with the outer part of the Flyers’ organization, ever ref a Flyers’ game? Ever? no less the biggest game of the year? I forget the guy’s name, Tim something, that reffed the WC and was a coach for a team that’s equivalent to the “Little Rangers.” maybe you say “big deal, that doesn’t matter.” It does matter as there is a “potential” for bias. and you tell me there wasn’t bias in that game, lol.
I don't think the flyers get favorable calls from the refs
only in the wc…I read the gdt yesterday of the flyers game and according to the flyers fans they went down early due to terrible reffing….obv they’re going to be biased towards they’re own team but it seemed like the refs made some bad calls that cost them.
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 5, 2012 11:56 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
don’t misunderstand, every team gets bad calls. Bettman is not texting refs during games, lol. but let’s see how much clutching and grabbing the refs allow the Flyers today.
yeah the refs just suck league wide lol…
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 5, 2012 12:05 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I think ice hockey refs have it much tougher than any other officials. They have to be athletes that skate almost non-stop and get tagged, clipped, and hit all the time. They have to avoid huge players and potentially lethal pucks constantly. They have to be everywhere on a huge ice surface and see everything that happens during the fastest team sport (bobsledding isn’t a sport) in the world. And god help them if they are wrong, because they’ll have an octopus or something thrown at them and their names will forever be cursed from the drunken mouths of hockey fans everywhere.
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see I’m not talking incompetence, I’m talking the unexplainable. If Cally doesn’t get a penalty in the WC then that’s an automatic goal with the empty net. Did you realize that? Then it’s 4-2 and game over. The ref had to call SOMETHING (at first he called it a dive, really?) on Cally to keep the game going.
I thought it was a horseshit call. I just think that might have had more to do with it being the Winter Classic and Cally being on the opposing team and the ref making a decision he normally wouldn’t make if there wasn’t a football field full of Flyers fans watching him.
The officiating in the Winter Classic was fucking tragic.
@DigDeepNYR
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that was Bettman’s boy Snider’s stage. Did you know the Flyers refused to shake hands afterwards which is a WC tradition? Here’s how the Rangers shove it down Bettman’s throat: Bettman stands at MSG’s center ice and says, “Captain Callahan, come get the Stanley Cup.” With 18,200+ at first booing Bettman then roaring after he hands the Cup to Cally. THAT’s how the Rangers stick it in his craw. Trust me, Bettman would not be a happy camper at that moment, lol.
It’s almost a league-wide tradition to boo Bettman when he comes out after the finals… there’s a unanimous amount of dislike for the guy around the league… I would hope we boo him after the finals XD
Sadly, you have made a point...
Would you wanna be the ref that makes a game-ending call against the Flyers in a stadium that is housing 40,000+ Flyers fans? That ref would get pelted with D batteries in the parking lot and ended up in worse condition than that off-duty cop that got assaulted outside of Geno’s….
Maybe I have too much faith in people being good and honest but I don’t think there is a conspiracy against the New York Rangers. Admittedly I get that little itch in the back of my mind that tells me things aren’t right every once in awhile when it comes to calls and things of that nature but I try to just ignore it.
I am not saying you are wrong or that you don’t really know a person who has an inside track and a knowledge of things being royally messed up I just… it is difficult to take it as absolute fact, y’know? It is well within the realm of possibility, I just like to think that it is probably not the case because probability and reason suggests that it isn’t the case. Then again, the game is a business and lord knows the league favors some teams over others and gives the spotlight to certain teams.
I’m not going to lie, I’ve never understood why the team that plays its hockey in the world’s most famous arena, in the world’s most famous city, that has been playing hockey since 1926 doesn’t get more of that spotlight. I think I like to think it isn’t the case because to be honest with you, it would totally depress the shit out of me if it was true.
@DigDeepNYR
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or has a WC? why not? it’s ridiculous that we haven’t had one or not scheduled to have one. no Yankee Stadium because of the Pinstripe Bowl? Then have it at Citifield. It’s BS.
let me tell you a quick non-sports story, it’s a reality check. I am a volunteer for a health-related foundation. we have been trying to get a drug passed that will extend patient lives and maybe even save lives. there has been evil forces that have lobbied against the drug for one reason: $$. as the drug is produced by a smaller pharmaceutical company, not one of the bigger ones. so there was considerable pressure to keep this drug out of the US market. this past Oct we FINALLY got it passed. it was a historic day. so the bottom line is that if there are people out there that would try to keep patients from getting better because of their own agendas that are not related to good healthcare then a sports league can be biased. Ethics have gone out the door. It’s sad.
People can be miserable fucks.
I like to think that most people are genuinely good though. I kind of have to think that way though, or else I’ll go insane and start to randomly bite people’s throats out. Not like a Twilight vampire, like a 40 days of night vampire.
@DigDeepNYR
"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
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In my 30 years as an accountant, one thing is clear: a handshake means nothing nowadays. it used to be that a person’s word was good enough. not anymore. very disheartening and having 2 sons, I worry about what’s to come. I hope it turns around at some point so fine young people like yourself will prosper. being in business I have been the victim of crooks who have taken things that don’t belong to them. but you keep going forward. the best advice I can give is to not worry about what others do, just do what you think is right. It makes you sleep better at night.
I hesitate to call myself a “fine young person” but thank you for such a generous compliment.
I am not sure fine young people make jokes about the heat of dog poo through a thin plastic bag like I did in my last story… but if they do, the world will be filled with a lot more smiles and laughter… and perhaps thicker dog poo bags.
@DigDeepNYR
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oh come on, that’s just being a human being, and you are funny. as ethical as I am, I’m certainly not a prude. I may not have ever cheated on my wife but even she knows I look at others, lol. I’m 52 but not dead for God’s sakes, lol.
I hope I am as good of a guy as you are when I hit 52.
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are you guys gonna make out?
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 5, 2012 12:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
haha I love that episode
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 5, 2012 1:03 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
26?
I always pictured you as an older voice of reason guy lol
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 5, 2012 11:36 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
Funny, I thought the general consensus was that I am a mischievous little leprechaun that is prone to long naps, shenanigans, and the occasional humorous post.
@DigDeepNYR
"It's just pain." -Brandon Prust | "In Prust we Trust."
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It’s a bit of both to be honest :)
"Mr. Madison, what you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul."
LET'S GO RANGERS!!!
42 is the meaning of life
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 5, 2012 11:36 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
and yet people still want to trade anisimov, silly fans
by Zuppa Di Pesce on Feb 5, 2012 12:41 PM EST up reply actions
not according to the impossible quiz
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 5, 2012 10:51 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I like the Rangers
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