Trade For Jeff Carter? Interesting Take.
by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 9, 2012 9:27 AM EST
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PrintCarter is definitely on the block and can be had for cheap at the moment. While I don't like him off the ice and think he's a cancer, on the ice he's a good sniper. Torts could probably straighten him out. He could be a good winger that plays well with Richards. Anyway, people point to his cap hit and long contract as reasons to stay away but here's something interesting I thought of.
The Rangers get Carter for very little and then if he succeeds that's great and if he doesn't we can send him to Hartford and let him rot out the rest of his long contract. I don't know how long he'd want to ride the bus down there and eventually he'd want out of his contract.
I don't exactly know if the Rangers can do that, but i'm not finding any reason why they couldn't.
Thoughts?
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Ain't this a kick in the head?
A boozing reject of the Failers could end up being key to the Rangers’ Stanley Cup run?
Amazing.
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by Danz10 on Feb 9, 2012 9:49 AM EST via mobile reply actions
unless he gets a NMC
i think we could send him down to the whales with no problem, however we would have to send him down through waivers first wouldn’t we? I’m sure some team would pick him up in an instant through waivers.
Unless we can do it in the offseason i guess?
He can play center or wing, so there’s a lot of options. I don’t think he would see time with Gaborik at all since they’re both shooters.
You could see him play wing with Richy and Cally, or possibly center AA, Step, Cally, Hagelin…whoever. But he’s a shooter, and this team needs guys who are willing to fire away.
Totally agree about that last part.
Its hard to pick lines though when its pretty much a guarantee if we were to get him we’d lose someone from our current roster
by Zuppa Di Pesce on Feb 9, 2012 4:56 PM EST up reply actions
the problem with our powerplay is no one wants to shoot the puck right away… its always pass pass pass shoot. carter would be a shoot first guy which could solve our pp woes.. then again they can’t get any worse. as much as gabby is a shooter he has a tendency to hold onto the puck on the powerplay and just dish it back.
this could be interesting
Hagelin-Step-Gaby
AA-Carter-Callahan
Dubi-Richards-Zuccarello??
Prust-Boyle-Feds/Rupp
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Zuccarello? are you kidding?
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uhh yeah of course I was kidding…
But seriously, from top to bottom those are good defensive lines so we can afford to have zuc in there…plus I think Richards would need a good offensive player to play with in those combinations.
@btown46
Zuc is not good enough to stay in this line up.Hence the reason he is not currently here. I’d play Mitchell over him any day. With Carter in your line up, you still have Dubi and AA……one of them will go back in return. I’d prefer to keep AA.
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AA Step Gabby
Carter Richie Cally
Hags Dubi Mitchell
Feds Boyle Prust
I rather see that. 3rd line is an energy line, top two both have a shooter, a passer, and a defensive forward.
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just the word on the street.
But if torts tamed lecalvalier he can tame carter
"Anson Carter is a highly skilled, versatile player who we feel will play a very significant role on our team this season. He is a very intelligent player who brings a strong presence and leadership qualities." - Sather
"He's the best first passer in the game. He moves the puck up exceptionally."- Sather on signing Wade Redden
"If you look through the NHL, there aren't many players with his type of ability; he has superstar ability."- Sather on signing Vladimir Malakhov
by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 9, 2012 5:25 PM EST up reply actions
You don’t immediately tame a player. It takes time. Therefore, acquiring a rental player that needs to be tamed is a huge risk. A rental player needs to contribute and be a positive locker room presence right away.
by I.Am.Spartacus on Feb 10, 2012 10:25 AM EST up reply actions
Carter is under contract until 2019 and is hardly a rental.
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Scorer, good on the PP, good on faceoffs. Just wish his contract was better but hey, that’s what amnesty is for ;)
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 9, 2012 5:07 PM EST reply actions
We can't let him rot in Hartford
We did it to Redden, now we are doing it to Avery. If we continue to “fix” our poor decisions by sending vets with big contracts down to Hartford, who is going to want to sign with us? That is not a solution and neither is bringing in Carter. He is not a fit for our system, he doesn’t play defense or grind on the boards. Let Columbus deal with his issues.
by BeukeBOOM! on Feb 9, 2012 5:42 PM EST reply actions 1 recs
Carter doesn’t play defense? During Richards’ Selke nomination year, Carter was on his wing. When Giroux “broke out” (and was playing top lines, too), Carter was on his wing. Carter isn’t Selke-caliber, but he can backcheck and can hold the puck in the offensive zone.
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by red army line on Feb 9, 2012 6:57 PM EST up reply actions
Comments like this just make me think that a lot of people here (IE people who think Nash is a superstar and Carter is a douche) just draw their opinions from headlines. ‘Carter is a cancer because the Flyers traded him for a huge haul to free up space for a goalie; he doesn’t play defense because he’s a cancer off the ice and therefore does not work hard on it.’ ‘Rick Nash is an immortal Olympic gold medalist who back checks all the time because he is big and strong and if he was on a team with any offense other than Columbus he would put up 90 points instead of 65ish!’ It’s ridiculous. Enough with this ‘he doesn’t fit our system he’s not a grinder’ horseshit.
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Take a deep breath...
I never said Carter was a douche or a cancer, I simply said that i don’t think he is a fit. He’s a purely offensive player, and a very talented one, but do you see him playing in Torts’ system? I don’t.
But
for the last time he is in no way purely offensive….if you read the flyers blog they attribute their deffensive problems to losing their “elite backcheckers” in Richards AND Carter
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 10, 2012 5:08 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
I wouldn't call him elite
Richards is not him but he is still pretty good defensively
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 10, 2012 5:13 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Wasn’t Jagr a cancer too? I think he goes down as one of the top 10 Rangers of all time. I think Carter got a bad rep for banging Hartnells wife or something like that. He is a very good two way center who obviously can score in the East. If he was a going to be a rental like Selanne, I’d opt for Carter. In reality, the contract is long but at 5.2 million average very manageable if need be. He is not injury prone, he’s missed 31 games in his career. He hits his peak playing here. When he was playing 1st line minutes with Philly, he put up 84 pts. He realistically can be a 75pt player. Best of all he is not a one dimensional guy….Gabby was said to be one dimensional but in tort’s system I always see the guy making a good play by back checking….Carter already plays this game. i think he fits in better than Nash, comes cheaper in trade and at less of a cap hit.
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Why do you think he is a purely offensive player?
Seems like you have just seen other comments make that comment as well, and are just repeating it.
He’s a great back-checker.
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OK
Forget the fact that I don’t want Carter and still don’t believe he offers much of anything defensively. Do you want to pay what it will take to get Carter? I dont.
Taking a break from my favorite Ranger site for a while. Tired of elitist arrogant A**holes who think their opinion is worth more than everybody elses.
his cap hit is only over 5 mil and his contract is front loaded so although we would have him into his older years the cap hit gets less and less so its not as bad of a contract as you think
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 11, 2012 11:49 AM EST via Android app up reply actions
The contract scares the piss out of me……..at 27yrs he is entering his prime and if this was a 4 or 5yr contract, I’d do it in a second…….but I think he is on the books until like 2019., thats kinda scary. He’s got almost 9 yrs left in an 11yr 58 million dollar deal making he average cap hit……5.27 million per for the remiander…I do not know if they made a front or rear loaded deal…….but that actually is not too horrible and there could be wiggle room for a guy like Parise in the offseason but I doubt it.
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Actually now that I am thinking about it, if Wolski and Dubinsky go back in the deal, the Rangers wind up way ahead of the game capwise and Parise becomes a serious possibility in the offseason considering MZA, Avery, Fedotenko, Eminger etc likely won’t be back. You bring up Krieder and Erixon next camp and you look to be in decent shape.
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by earthworm on Feb 9, 2012 6:01 PM EST up reply actions 1 recs
Assuming Parise makes 7.5 mil, thats 5 players making 35 mil.. That scares me.. Also, I’m not sure it would fit too well into the cap at all, especially in the long-term. But if you want a wet dream…
Parise Stepan Gaborik
Hagelin Richards Carter
Kreider Anisimov Callahan
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oh god
i want to JIZZ IN MY PANTS with that Kreider Anisimov Callahan line
or even better.
Hagelin Kreider Callahan
aka the least hit line in the NHL. can’t hit what you can’t catch, right?
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by BleedsRangerBlue on Feb 9, 2012 10:36 PM EST up reply actions
that would be a fucking awesome lineup.
Could you imagine Kreider, Callahan, and Anisimov destroying bottom pairs.
No defense in the league could match up with them.
I don’t care if your last 3 forwards are guys like Sjostrom, Hollweg, and Colton Orr, to make it work out cap wise. Can’t match up with that top 9.
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"He's the best first passer in the game. He moves the puck up exceptionally."- Sather on signing Wade Redden
"If you look through the NHL, there aren't many players with his type of ability; he has superstar ability."- Sather on signing Vladimir Malakhov
by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 9, 2012 10:53 PM EST up reply actions
That would be ridiculous.
Shit, play the top 3 lines 20 minutes each.
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I seriously think there's no way
that lineup would happen. What with that pesky salary cap and all. I’d love it, I just doubt it happens.
by NastyNate82 on Feb 11, 2012 12:16 AM EST up reply actions
Parise is the same age right? I have a strong suspicion he gets a deal with a higher cap hit and term the ends around the same time.
by MyFavBaseballSquadron on Feb 9, 2012 6:13 PM EST up reply actions
I agree
Parise is going to get 8 million per somewhere. But I like the wet dream senario. Thats a very scary top 9…..Prust, Boyle, Mitchell/Rupp on the 4th.
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Prust Boyle Mitchell
would be a scary checking line too, if only we could make those lines happen hahah, talk about stacked.
Carter resembles Bobby Carpenter too much and the Carpenter trade still gives me nightmares so I have a hard time advocating this move, lol.
Your very old
"Anson Carter is a highly skilled, versatile player who we feel will play a very significant role on our team this season. He is a very intelligent player who brings a strong presence and leadership qualities." - Sather
"He's the best first passer in the game. He moves the puck up exceptionally."- Sather on signing Wade Redden
"If you look through the NHL, there aren't many players with his type of ability; he has superstar ability."- Sather on signing Vladimir Malakhov
by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 10, 2012 7:54 AM EST up reply actions
wrong
i direct your attention to the 1996 trade deadline:
to LA Kings: ian lapperriere, ray ferraro, mattias norstrom, nathan lafayette
to NY Rangers: marty mcsorley, jari kurri, shane churla
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oh no, the trade for Carpenter was much worse. Ridley and Miller were key players for the Caps for years. I know Norstrom was very good but I think the Carpenter trade was worse. but the trade you mention would probably be #3 for me.
i think we can rank them
1, 1a, 1b
wait didn’t miller go to the caps in the kocur deal in ’91?
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never mind
i’m apparently slow of brain power on the second morning of my 37th year
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by Danz10 on Feb 10, 2012 12:01 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
thanks danz
but we’re both still younger than grampa schmediebergensteinowitzwhateverhisnameis
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blame espo for that one
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It was Kevin Miller who was traded for Joey Kocur; Kelly Miller went to Washington with Ridley for Carpenter.
Prole art threat.
by greifi griffie on Feb 10, 2012 12:02 PM EST up reply actions
yes
my brain fart earlier ruined my entire day
i feel shame
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A list of the worst trades in NYR history would be a really good read. I can’t seem to find any articles on the internet right now that specifically list just NYR trades and rank them.
The Eric Lindros deal was terrible. I cringed the day I heard we got him.
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by middletownbull on Feb 13, 2012 11:33 AM EST up reply actions
Imagine if this went through?
The trade between the Nordiques and the Rangers that was ruled invalid by the arbitrator had Lindros being traded for Doug Weight, Tony Amonte, Alexei Kovalev, John Vanbiesbrouck, three first round draft picks (1993, 1994 & 1995) and $12 million.
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Who knows what happens if that happens.
Rangers definitely still coulda won the cup throughout the 90’s, and would probably have been better suited for the better part of the next decade. Definitely set down the middle if the rangers still trade for Messier at that time.
It’s a trade that at the time I would have done no doubt.
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"He's the best first passer in the game. He moves the puck up exceptionally."- Sather on signing Wade Redden
"If you look through the NHL, there aren't many players with his type of ability; he has superstar ability."- Sather on signing Vladimir Malakhov
by RichieToGabbySCORE on Feb 13, 2012 10:15 PM EST up reply actions
Is there any player today that would bring back that large a haul?
I don’t think so.
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Not in the cap era, no.
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by George E. Ays on Feb 14, 2012 2:33 PM EST up reply actions
which bobby carpenter?
the 20 goal scorer with the kings & bruins or the defensive whiz he became post-knee surgery?
…..apparently i’m very old too
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mouse forever….Wouldn't you rather be a lion for one day than a mouse for life?" - Lord General Sather
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if his career has the same trajectory though
carter will be a hard-assed checking winger/center for the next six years potting about ten goals a year
eeeep
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on the flip side, think of how motivated Carter (playing with BR) will be facing the Flyers and eastern teams and trying to prove that the Flyers made a mistake. He has 2 strikes on him already (drinking too much in Philly; sulking in Columbus) so hopefully, returning to an eastern conference team will turnaround his game. Carter thrived in a big market and proved to be a very good goal scorer, which is in short supply on our roster today. Almost 2/3 of the way through this season, we only have 4 players who have scored more than 10 goals!
if we go for a project like Carter
we should probably do it in the offseason, that way we can evaluate Dubi’s play some more and if he doesn’t step it up make a move for Carter
by rain-g-errs on Feb 10, 2012 11:45 AM EST up reply actions
but he can possibly be gone by fhen
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 10, 2012 5:09 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
and how do we address our needs for the playoffs? If you wait until the offseason, Parise becomes the focus and I’d hate for Sather to have alot of extra money to throw around at that time.
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Right
I think his NMC kicks in this summer, thats why they’re trying to trade him NOW.
by NastyNate82 on Feb 11, 2012 12:14 AM EST up reply actions
There is some debate about that. Some have said his NMC did not transfer to CBJ. Without actual looking at the contract it is hard to say.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 11, 2012 6:19 AM EST up reply actions
Actually per the CBA sec 11.8a the NMC/NTC would not have transferred.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 15, 2012 9:15 AM EST up reply actions
What do you think they'd have to give up for Carter?
I didn’t really see what people said in terms of offers for him. AA and a prospect? We can’t just lump all our dead salary on them (Wolski). Getting a guy who is a very good two-way player with a chance to be a 75 point guy requires something pretty substantial to give up, I’d think.
contract length and the fact he is on the outs lessen the leverage they have. Reasonable offer…..Dubinsky, Wolski, Valentenko, 3rd round pick. I included Wolski for cap relief, deal can likely get done without him included.
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He original was traded for Voracek who is a young 40-50 point guy, a 1st and a 3rd. Although they would like to get that back in reality they probably wont.
So Dubi because of his salary and there would be an overload at center/LW and a 1st probably gets it done. maybe MZA or Vtank to sweeten the pot.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 11, 2012 4:20 AM EST up reply actions
I might give them their pick
of Dubi or AA. AA might be more talented offensively, but I think Dubi is more versatile and can wear a lot of different hats.
And he gets paid over twice the amount that AA does.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 11, 2012 2:02 PM EST up reply actions
Despite Dubi not lighting it up right now, I do kinda think maybe AA going inthe trade is the better option for NY. I mean, Dubinsky does everything else well and stands up for his team.I’m not sure what AA peaks at. i know we want to believe he is a 55 to 65pt guy, but I’m not sure thats what he is. I like AA with Gabby and Step but think Carter takes his spot anyway. I don’t see Carter or BR playing on the 3rd line. Todays 3 PPG’s against the failer proves we have the right guys, we need the right PP plan.
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The biggest difference between the two is salary. Dubi is twice as much and not really worth $4.2 with the way he is playing. also in 3 years he will be a UFA whereas AA still has one year after this season and he is a RFA. No way he gets that type of money. So you are looking at most likely Dubi walking in 3 while AA will still be cost controlled.
That will come in very handy when we have to resign Step, McD and if we took on another contract such as Carter
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 11, 2012 4:07 PM EST up reply actions
Depends on the other teams needs but probably, yeah.
But the comment was what is best for the Rangers and how people would pref to give up AA over Dubi.
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 11, 2012 6:26 PM EST reply actions
if either one of them starts scoring consistently then the Rangers won’t have to do a damn thing. but they haven’t done it yet so the jury is out until Feb 27th. the only thing that may keep them here is lack of trading market. but I keep thinking the Rangers will not go the forward route but go the Visnosky route.
Not too big of a fan of getting Carter
I understand he doesn’t make too much and his contract is mostly frontloaded. But I never really even liked him as a player when he was in Philly, I just don’t really see him fitting in with our team. He could be a nice winger for Richards, but I just think Carter is not the player we should get if we were to bring in a high priced high skilled player.
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so who do you wanna bring in
by Prustyballs94 on Feb 11, 2012 8:52 PM EST via Android app up reply actions
Right now?
No one, there is no need to. If we want to try to win this year then yes should make a move, but that’s not the plan for the Rangers. Sather knows exactly what he’s doing, being patient, letting the kids develop, and continuing the youth movement.
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I think he might be the best option out there
very good scorer, and a pretty good two way player as well and arguably a first line center. With BR and either of Step/AA as your top 3 centers…..thats pretty damn good. Boyle finally started winning some draws too, we aren’t that weak anymore in the pivot.
the cost for what you are getting is a better value than just about any other player.
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Yes but do we want him for that long? Because if he doesn’t work out, it’s not like we can just dump him somewhere, he would be with us for a while. It wouldn’t be the smartest idea to start bringing in high priced big contract players (yes I know Carter isn’t that pricey) when we’re still a very young team having our 1st real good year, just wait. There’s nothing wrong with waiting, be patient. Don’t sacrifice the future for now. Let Step, Anisimov, Hagelin, MDZ, McD, etc get more experience this year. Step’s still gotta develop as a better forward, let Artie find his game and become better, let Hagelin experience playoff hockey as well MDZ and McD. The only moves we should be making is bringing in depth players, not someone we expect to carry this team.
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There are plenty of options. We we able to get rid of Redden and Drury> There is sure to be another CBA with the possibility of amnesty.
Also his actual salary drops drops down to $3-$2-$2 in his last 3 years of the contract making him easier to trade or eat in the minors. So really you are looking to have to keep him until he is 34. That is not
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by Blueshirt in Paris on Feb 12, 2012 3:54 AM EST reply actions
Yup. He’s got a NTC for 3 years and then a limited NTC after that (8 teams he can say no being traded to).
Read somewhere that his NTC dropped off his contract when he got traded this summer. Any truth to that?
Even Capgeek is sketchy on it. There were rumors it had to do with him playing for the Flyers and him reaching his 27th(?) birthday for it to kick in. Either way, it’s only a full NTC for 3 years. If it was a full NTC for the contract, I would probably pull my support for it, but it’s gone after 3 years if Capgeek is correct. That, IMHO, should make the NTC irrelevant in terms of gauging his value in a trade.
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