Ranger Pregame News: Ryan Callahan Will Sit, John Scott Makes Ranger Debut
by Bryan Winters on Mar 1, 2012 11:39 AM EST
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PrintThe New York Rangers announced today that captain Ryan Callahan will be sitting out tonight's game against the Carolina Hurricanes. Ryan Callahan sat out of practice yesterday with what was said to be a bruised foot. It's probably nothing serious, it's just a precautionary move by the Rangers to make sure he is 100% before returning to the line-up.
The newest addition to the Rangers, John Scott, will be making his Rangers debut tonight due to the absence of Callahan. Scott was acquired at the trade deadline, and was added to create some offensive and defensive depth. Scott is versatile and can play both defense and offense, and it looks like he will be playing the wing tonight. According to the practice lines, he will be paired up with John Mitchell and Mike Rupp on the fourth line.
Martin Biron will also be starting between the pipes for the Rangers tonight, which will be his 16th start of the season. Biron has played a large role in the Rangers success this season, despite some recent weaknesses. The amount of games Biron played this season has definitely taken the burden off of Lundqvist, who is projected to only start around 60 games this season.
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you think Mitchell feels safe?
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by dsteak on Mar 1, 2012 11:46 AM EST reply actions 1 recs
With Biron...
Biron has been kind of ;shaky" lately,we will see,it,ll be tough,Carolina playing better as are other teams…Rangers by one..Go Rangers!
He has to play though
no need to burn Hank out during all of these back-to-back games.
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by Joe Fortunato on Mar 1, 2012 11:48 AM EST up reply actions
he does
the backup goalie is very important at this time. for reasons i won’t mention out loud, but he has to get his game back.
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Biron has been off
no doubt about it. But there is no reason to burn Hank out. Plus, Biron is bound to rebound eventually
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by Joe Fortunato on Mar 1, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Who knows? Maybe tonight will be an off-day for Carolina (and Ward). Just as long as the guys get business done with before a potential shoot-out. Don’t want Biron’s confidence to get whittled down any further.
Hey, how’s Scott on shootouts?
i don’t believe he has ever taken one
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think if he punches the puck hard enough it’ll go in?
by OhCallyMyCaptain on Mar 1, 2012 12:38 PM EST up reply actions
So no worse than Richards is what you're saying?
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his relative percentage is better (0 for 0 as opposed to 0 for 7)
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Maybe this is Dubi’s chance to slide up to the top 6 and have an impact on the offensive side.
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It really is
he hasn’t seen the type of minutes he wants of late. That should change tonight.
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by Joe Fortunato on Mar 1, 2012 11:54 AM EST up reply actions
Plus he’ll be with a bit more offensively apt players – Boyle and Prust are fantastic, but lighting the lamp is not they’re specialty.
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Wasn’t it reported that Feds played with Richards and Hagelin in yesterday’s skate?
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 12:25 PM EST up reply actions
I think that might have been a
“let’s just practice this way because I think Cally will play tomorrow,” thing. Tortorella switches the lines so much anyway I don’t think it matters who plays where and when.
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by Joe Fortunato on Mar 1, 2012 12:30 PM EST up reply actions
Cally Richy and Hags pretty much are always on the ice together. Feds saw some time with BR early this year, remember. Dubi gets a boost in mins for sure, but I don’t see him rotating normally with Hags and BR.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 12:50 PM EST up reply actions
it’s Torts’ way of saying to Feds: “you ma boy, feds. You’re buried on the 4th, go enjoy.” And the official excuse for not bumping Dubie up will be" We don’t want to break up our best line".
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by MKwizardAD@aol.com on Mar 1, 2012 3:20 PM EST up reply actions
If he has a great day (and I’m really pulling for the guy), what happens when Cally’s back in the lineup? How will the lines shake out then?
Cally retains his spot on the second line
and Dubi might see some more power play minutes.
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by Joe Fortunato on Mar 1, 2012 11:57 AM EST up reply actions
I mean
I don’t actually “know.” I’m just assuming
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by Joe Fortunato on Mar 1, 2012 11:59 AM EST up reply actions
It’s an informed deduction, and that works for me. :)
I can’t help but hope, though, that Torts would give the Pack line another try for a bit. They were amazing at times last year, and I refuse to believe it can’t be restored. But if they do manage to click again, then what happens to all the other lines (again)?
Cally is still more of a shooter so I’d keep him with BR either way. I think Dubi is stuck where he is – a 3rd liner that can move up in case of injury. Unless he starts lighting it up (maybe on the PP like Joe said) its going to be tough for him to get off the 3rd line.
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For the empty net, Mark Messier... do you believe it?! Do you believe it?! He said we will win game 6 - he has just picked up the hat trick!
Hey, who knows? Maybe they will be able to start producing together. If Boyle and Dubi were able to do some of that last year (albeit on different lines), this isn’t entirely impossible (even if it’s somewhat optimistic).
On that note, I think I’ll go pick up one of those scratch-off lottery tix.
Yeah I think that’s the case, barring injuries, until next year.
It could get very interesting if, for example in a PERFECT DREAM WORLD, this summer we got Parise/Nash and Kreider pans out to be a true player. Then we could actually have a kickass third line that would be both energy and scoring:
Kreider-Stepan-Gabby
Parise-BRich-Cally
Dubi-AA-Hagelin
Prust-Boyle-RUpp/Mitchell
Those are some pretty boss lines.
Maybe not an issue with this particular lineup for NEXT year, but then by 2013-2014 season you need to get rid of Dubi or someone, I think?
So much depends on the CBA negotiations
Who knows how much a $4.2 million contract will be worth once all is said and done.
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by Joe Fortunato on Mar 1, 2012 1:47 PM EST up reply actions
Parise Stepan Gaborik
Kreider BRich Cally
Hagelin AA Dubi
Prust Mitchell Boyle
with boyler on right wing and a left shot he could get some decent scoring opportunities and improve his wrister.
yeah that would be very sexy :)
Yeah I mean Boyle could alternate with Mitchell and he would still play those big PK minutes and that line would still go against #1 lines to slow them down and puck possess/forecheck
I would like to see a more even distribution of minutes between our lines which is why i set it up that way.
The first three lines are dangerous, definitely, but our fourth line/checking line/stopyoubeforeyougetinourzoneandbringittoyourzone line is no slouch either.
He’ll more than likely play with Richards believe it or not. I don’t think Dubi is moving up in the lineup, despite the speculation.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 12:23 PM EST up reply actions
People need to lay off Marty biron, that Chicago game it was obvious he felt like an ass wearing those horrendous looking pads :)
by ImMike88 on Mar 1, 2012 12:23 PM EST via iPhone app reply actions
He was also shaky against the Islanders. It wasn’t the pads, although they were hideous.
by NYR-BD-RC-HL-MS on Mar 1, 2012 3:44 PM EST up reply actions
I was just being sarcastic about the pads because they were horrendous lol
by ImMike88 on Mar 1, 2012 4:25 PM EST via iPhone app up reply actions
Eh
Hate that we don’t have Cally in the lineup. He’s the spark that gets everyone else going. Hope we see some smart hockey out of Scott and not just brute force.
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Why no Zuccs
Just don’t get it, Rupp = Scott, why do we need both in the lineup?
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 12:24 PM EST up reply actions
Slats likes Scott because he is a “swing” player, meaning he is capable of playing offense and defense. I would prefer plugging in some more skill, but I am sure that we are taking the opportunity to play Scott now that the opportunity has presented itself.
I’d rather give him some ice and see what he can do in our system than have acquired him and not give him ice time until there was an emergency situation.
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see Strudwick, Jason
For the most part, I agree with you.
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But what happens
when a “swing player” like Scott can’t play either position?
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Hasn't it been well established
That he’s 6’8", has hands of stone, and can barely skate?
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 12:51 PM EST up reply actions
why no Zuccs?
because he’s too small. He stopped making an impact last year so they demoted him. Scott = Rupp = size. Size = something the Rangers are usually lacking. I truly think Torts feels our team lacks a lot of high end talent so he fills out the bottom two lines with defensive minded grinders. It may not be pretty but defensive perfection is the underpinning of this team, as well as the foundation of its mindset.
Can Scott and Rupp play adequate defense on a consistent basis? Well, Scott has been an actual defensmen so I think he can handle that. Rupp is Rupp. He really isn’t that good of a skater but he knows what it takes to win.
At this point in the season I am more comfortable with guys like Rupp and Scott than I am with Zuccarello.
being a defenseman does not make one a capable defender
that is just a huge fallacy in your logic.
also rupp “knows what it takes to win”? is this the fifties? you should go watch moneyball. you might as well say “he looks like a winner”
Of course Rupp knows what it takes to win in the playoffs. It takes a skilled team to play on the ice while he sits on the bench and cheers.
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"Oils like he's getting a himmer!"
Wow, that is a blatant ignorance of how Zuccs played when he was up. He worked HARD on defense, and in many situations was the first guy to the corners, AND the first guy putting a body on people in the offensive zone, the kid can fore-check and isn’t afraid to throw the little bit of weight he has around. He isn’t a defensive liability, the only knock on him has been he slow acclamation to the rink size. He hasn’t learned how to compensate for it quite yet. He slowed down at the end of last year mainly due to a lack of experience playing a long sched.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 2:58 PM EST up reply actions
agree. especially against Carolina. You could take out Rupp too and bring in scoring. Prust & Bicks would be enough against them.
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by MKwizardAD@aol.com on Mar 1, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
smart hockey for Scott
would be him refusing to leave the bench when his line was supposed to change onto the ice
“sorry coach. it’s not smart hockey for me to be out there. we’re likely to give up some quality shots on goal”
But but but
What about the Marek Malik philosophy of, “he’s so big, he’ll block everything, hit everything, and stick-check pucks that are THIRTY FEET AWAY FROM HIM.”
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Marek Malik was an NHL player
and while not amazing and particularly maligned by Rangers fans, he wasn’t horrible. John Scott is a circus act, an unfortunate combination of genetics.
Can't wait
for Scott to be on the ice with Milan Lucic so he can “take care” of him and watch as Lucic blows clear by him because Scott can’t play defense and it leads to a goal
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You guys are being awfully judgmental on a guy who has NEVER skated with the team. Geez at least give him one game.
fixed
a guy who has NEVER skatedwith the team
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not bad
but when goal scoring is the one real weakness this team has, not sure he’s the best answer.
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The man can't skate
Can’t play defense or offense…what good is he?
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It’s not impossible to dig up analysis on a player these day, not to mention that thing called youtube can be useful in looking a player before he’s played a game with your team.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
you. are. blowing. my. mind right now.
I’m talking about guys saying he’s going to go out and commit dumb penalties play bad defense in the name of head hunting to make an impact right away. Maybe he’ll play within himself and play smart for the 3-5 minutes he gets?
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IDK
poor man’s bickel
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well bickel is actually used for hockey
Scott is really there to fill Boogaard’s role as a “nuclear threat” skating around for mutually assured destruction if anyone gets chippy with Cally, Step, Gaby, hank, etc…as long as he is somewhat responsible defensively he should be ok….I am against the role of goons, but if it means having a healthier roster going into the playoffs, so be it…..NO ONE WILL GET OFF “SCOTT-FREE”
sooooo funnyyyyy!
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Yeah the extremists will always be extreme, though.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 1:07 PM EST up reply actions
the terror alert for tonight’s game has been raised to code brown. as in. the color of everyone’s underpants that plays for the carolina hurricanes.
GET RIPPED
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I loled in the middle of class. Awesome
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I loled in the middle of class. Weakness for dooty jokes
by Sportsfan21 2 10 on Mar 1, 2012 3:00 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You know
Scott could actually potentially forecheck really well, sure I bet he isn’t a fantastic skater but we will see tonight how it plays out.
It is not like our fourth line plays more than 5 minutes a game anyway. I really doubt they [Scott included] will have much of a potential for any marginal effect on the game.
Best case scenario, Scott stands in front of the net forcing two-three Hurricanes players to get him off the puck and creates space for Mitchell and Rupp to get some decent shots off at the net.
Right, so why not invest some top 6 mins on Zuccs? No we have Bickel, Rupper, and Scott, it’s a bit of an overkill, no? It seems like this org. has absolutely no interest in playing MZA, which is a shame, because he will figure out the small rink.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 12:55 PM EST up reply actions
Time for your weekly "where are they now" update for Eric Christensen
@Russostrib Christensen looks to finally be scratched tonight for #mnwiId. 0 points, minus-11 in 12 games
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To think
That guy used to be our number 1 center with Gabby. Makes me feel sad inside.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 12:58 PM EST up reply actions
that was the first year of our rebuild
the fact that the pack line blossomed that year and guys like Step have ..ahem “stepped up” shows how far we’ve come.
@btown46
Yeah those years feel like forever ago now.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 1:02 PM EST up reply actions
Because he’s not required to back-check
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 1:00 PM EST up reply actions
they’re definitely giving him full ice time. i remember in the first few games with the rangers he was obvious, but then really tailed off.
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he's (excuse the cliche) enigmatic
he has the skill to make a huge impact when he wants to…he’s just so fragile either emotionally or mentally that he just goes into a shell and disappears….I guess he’s motivated right now…for his sake, he better keep it up.
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I remember when he first got picked up by the Rangers
“I’m sick of hearing about all the talent I have that I haven’t put to use yet. This might be my last chance in the NHL, I want it to count.” (I’m paraphrasing)
Yeah, that didn’t happen.
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by Joe Fortunato on Mar 1, 2012 1:32 PM EST up reply actions
I dont want to Piss on everyone's parade
Callahan has missed Casino night and multiple media interviews. I hope this is not more than a “bruised” foot.
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Should put Boyle in that line
That’s a BIG friggin line . Hat trick for Scott tonight. Heard it here first
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Standard or Gordie Howe?
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natural
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No he means the elusive minute based hat trick. 3:00 TOI
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 1:05 PM EST up reply actions
3 period trick
He gets playing time in all 3…that 3rd period is always the hardest.
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OK, lets set the record straight on Scott.
John Scott was acquired to break the faces of the opposing players, and nothing else. He will not score goals, he will not get an assist, he probably not even skate well.
However, He will do this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=985bd9nTDGA
I understand he does not address the scoring issue, but the price for Nash was too high, it would have fucked with the team chemistry too much, and in case you didn’t pay attention it was a sellers market as Gaustad was worth a 1st round pick. So that is why Sather’s only move was this guy, end of story.
So The Rangers miss on Nash
could have gotten some rental scoring help, but instead get a guy who punches people…and this will help in the playoffs how? When there is no fighting because teams play smart hockey
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Kevin did you pay attention to the deadline?
Gaustad went for a 1st round pick. Unless you wanted to pay that price, there was no one to add.
Now, having Cally injured sucks regardless, and maybe a guy like MZA should be given a chance, but there was nothing that could have been done at the deadline.
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yeah I did
I’m just steamed over the move…it makes no sense even though the market sucked
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It was a depth move that adds jam,
It doesn’t really cost us anything (especially with the Wolski trade), and it helps “shore up” our back line.
The flip side, of course, is that there’s no offensive depth either.
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by Joe Fortunato on Mar 1, 2012 1:35 PM EST up reply actions
Throw away player for a throw away pick. It was just a move to make a move, Slats was bored after the Nash deal was dead. He adds NOTHING to this team, no matter how much we want to sugar coat it. Bring up MZA please so we can all talk about something relevant (i.e. not a 6’8" fighter who surprises people when he doesn’t fall down during the warm-up skate)
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 1:51 PM EST up reply actions
I doubt it was because he was bored
I think Sather is aware that the Rangers might pull a division rival in the playoffs and wants some added toughness in case the Rangers run into the Flyers, Penguins or Devils.
It’s not a blockbuster move at all, I agree.
I also don’t think MZA is the answer right now. Let’s give Dubinsky a shot to find his game (since he will be playing in the playoffs for sure).
The whispers are that Kreider might be signed for the playoffs. That’s another reason why I’m thinking we’re not seeing MZA
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by Joe Fortunato on Mar 1, 2012 1:54 PM EST up reply actions
Dubi has had his shot all year. Not saying MZA is the answer, BUT he’s more logical option that Scott. I don’t see Scott being in the lineup if Cally is healthy, so unless Cally is hurt, Scott doesn’t see playoff time (so I consider that argument moot).
Kreider would be a nice option, but how are we going to expect a guy to come straight from college into a NHL playoff series and be able to handle top 6 mins? He might be a “sure-thing” but I’m not gonna be any hype until I see the kid take a NHL shift.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 2:05 PM EST up reply actions
Well the other issue is
that whoever comes in won’t be playing big minutes. I think that’s why the Rangers have kept all the meaningful prospects where they are. That’s why Scott will be in, he has no issues playing three minutes a night.
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by Joe Fortunato on Mar 1, 2012 2:09 PM EST up reply actions
thank you joe.
calling up MZA to play anything less then 8 or 9 TOI a game, is just a waste.
I don’t want him playing 8-9 either. I’ve said countless times to slot him with BR and Hags while Cally rests. Dubi has been getting the minutes he deserves.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 2:13 PM EST up reply actions
But can he handle the switch?
Top line mins in the AHL does not equal top 6 competition in the NHL. He’d have to get accustomed to it, don’t see the value in throwing him into the fire like that. He should get called up & start against third line comp, if we had a non-defensive 3rd line.
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We talkin MZA?
The answer is yes, he produced for 40 games last year, and to my immediate recollection, he was playing close to 15-18 mins a game. Anyone have a solid number on what his average TOI was last year?
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 3:02 PM EST up reply actions
TOI
He averaged 14 mins. Shot at an 8.0% clip.
.55 pts/gm
Dubi this year
17 mins. 5.0%
.47 pts/gm
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 3:16 PM EST up reply actions
+1
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How was it a sellers market when no team wanted to sell (extort may be, but not sell)? Except for CBJ & EDM who on 27th were out of it, all other teams still believed they can make play offs and didn’t want to sell.
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by MKwizardAD@aol.com on Mar 1, 2012 3:41 PM EST up reply actions
Why not just run three lines tonight instead of rendering Mitchell useless as well.
AA Step Gabby
Dubi Richie Mitchell
Feds Boyle Prust
Scott Rupp Bickel
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Maybe the Canes can have us borrow some of their players we can use for a 4th line
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LMAO.
I’m sure 3 random whale guys could do it better than those guys..
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JAM-Bourque-MZA
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Yup. Play those 3 instead of Scott-Rupp-Bickel lmao.
It can be like last years Wolski-Step-Zucs line I suppose.
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Yeah
I would like to see Mitchell get more ice time too, maybe with Hags
AA Step Gabby
Hags Richie MItchell
Dubi Boyle Prust
Feds Rupp Scott
I don't see Mitchell getting moved to the second line
Even though he’s had an off year, Dubinsky still desrves that second line spot in Callahan’s absence.
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by Joe Fortunato on Mar 1, 2012 1:52 PM EST up reply actions
I would
just like to see Mitchell and Hags on the same line again, they had some chemistry.
Reports are Feds is sliding up to play wing with Hags and BRich
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 3:03 PM EST up reply actions
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I always forget someone.
Well hmm… I guess Dubi goes back to playing with Boyle/Prust.
I just think having three forwards in there (Rupp, Bickel, Scott) who can’t play offense is just too much.
Let’s hope we play good defense.
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Agree
100%
I can’t understand why people don’t think having all 3 suit up is overkill, especially for a team struggling to pot goals.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 3:05 PM EST up reply actions
I’d rather have Mitchell be useless than sit Hags
by NYR-BD-RC-HL-MS on Mar 1, 2012 3:53 PM EST up reply actions
The name is Scott. John Scott.
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MZA WILL NEVER PLAY FOR NYR AGAIN
Newbury, JAM and Deveaux are call ups before him. Torts has been there/done that with MZA, accept it and move on.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Mar 1, 2012 3:13 PM EST via mobile reply actions
I’m just awestruck with the fact that “been there, done that” equals 40 games in the NHL.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 3:25 PM EST up reply actions
Torts is tough. Memory like an elephant. Probably remembers handful of times Zucc lost one on one battles and thinks “Never again!”.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Mar 1, 2012 3:41 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
We’re going to regret this next year when a team signs him and give him decent mins. He’s going to be playing in this league for a while.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 3:47 PM EST up reply actions
agree
PAP v 2.0
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by MKwizardAD@aol.com on Mar 1, 2012 3:48 PM EST up reply actions
sure but my guess is MZA has enough talent to produce elsewhere if he gets traded …. and burn the Rangers every time we play him. Just like PAP.
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by MKwizardAD@aol.com on Mar 1, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
Lets be realistic..
If anyone thought MZA could contribute right now at NHL level he would be on a team. Sather would have easily taken a 5th or 6th round pick. But nobody called.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Mar 1, 2012 3:59 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
How do you know nobody called? And I wouldn’t take a 5th for MZA….
No way.
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by MKwizardAD@aol.com on Mar 1, 2012 4:01 PM EST up reply actions
Any team
That gives him top 6 mins, and is patient, will reap some serious benefits.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 3:54 PM EST up reply actions
He has no place on this team. Round peg/square whole. Sather and Torts going for North South roster with size, snarl and defensive commitment. MZA is 0 for 3 on those.
If he gets stronger he has some skills, but you can still see when he plays for CT that he doesn’t have it yet. Look at Gerbe and Ennis, much tougher on the puck and better quickness.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Mar 1, 2012 3:53 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Sorry but you haven’t watched Zuccs play much then…
He hits, back-checks, fore-checks, and works hard in the corners. He did no loligag in his own zone.
You’re wrong on this one, buddy.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 3:57 PM EST up reply actions
I agree. I love Hags but to me they are equal. The only problem was, he did trail off toward the end. And he didn’t have BR on his line.
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by MKwizardAD@aol.com on Mar 1, 2012 3:59 PM EST up reply actions
i’m sorry but hagelin and zuccarello shouldn’t even be brought up in the same sentence. hagelin is the fastest skater in the league and that alone causes problems for opposing teams not to mention his puck possession ability, back-check, fore-check.. etc….. the sky is the limit for him. zuccarello does not have blow away speed and is very undersized. he’s gonna need more time to adapt to the style of the NHL (obviously not here) before we determine what he’ll be.
hags
you can see in games where he throws off the opposition because of his speed. not so much now that he’s a known entity, but he has the speed to change a game.
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look at what he did at the end of the devils game. you can’t teach speed. if he continues to work on all his other skills he’ll be around for quite a while.
I stand corrected
His speed is unequaled and therefore the comparison with MZA doesn’t work.
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by MKwizardAD@aol.com on Mar 1, 2012 4:51 PM EST up reply actions
Dude, I’ve watched at least 20 Whale games this year with him in the line up. He has vision and skill, but not the size/strength/consitution to play on this team.
What are you a distant relative or agent
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Mar 1, 2012 4:02 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
No I’m a fan of the team, and I believe he can contribute to it, especially given that we need some spark on offense. You have a baseless vendetta just because he is small.
There’s a reason we signed him, and a reason he played 40+ games last year. It seems like instead of adding some offensive punch with Zuccs we are taking the NJ approach and just accepting the lack of goals, hoping we can win 1 goal games…
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 4:11 PM EST up reply actions
If you can’t tell why Hagelin is a superior NHL prospect to MZA….I fear for your safety when you use sharp objects.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Mar 1, 2012 4:11 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
MZA was the MVP of the Swedish Elite League 2 years ago. Let’s not sell him short just yet.
And the sharp objects comment – was that supposed to be funny or insulting? Didn’t seem like either.
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lets just say
that if Zucc’s had Hagelin’s speed and size increase (albeit slight) he’d be an all star.
and thanks for your concern, but I’m actually not allowed to hold sharp objects so worry not.
@btown46
You are just trolling to troll. You haven’t provided one fact or piece on insight, instead you are just referring to the obvious (lack of size) and running with it. We’ve all provided arguments for why we think MZA could help this team offensively while you just knock his size.
Sorry sir, but your opinion is now worthless to me.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
a lot of it has to do with the success of this team so far. at this point i think torts would rather hope dubinsky gets it going instead of trying to bring up MZA.
As I've said
Dubi has been given more than his fair share of oppurtunities this year. He’s played 1st and 2nd line mins and hasn’t performed, played PP mins and hasn’t performed. MZA is just and OPTION, I’m not claiming he’s the overall solution.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 5:06 PM EST up reply actions
I’ve watched MZA at least 20 times this year. His board work is at best marginal and he doesn’t show any improvement in strength from last year.
I’m sure people were calling for him at the deadline and Sather said…nope, going to wait until the summer and let him walk as UFA.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Mar 1, 2012 5:26 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Yet again
Baseless…
Can you stop now, please?
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 5:29 PM EST up reply actions
Scott Rupp Mitchell
Kind of looks like the modern day version of the GAG line
by Guess Who's Back? on Mar 1, 2012 3:17 PM EST reply actions
Loved the GAG line, would always shove it down the opponents throat.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Mar 1, 2012 3:23 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
GAG
we are talking about hadfield, ratelle, and gilbert right?
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Just the acronym
Those 3 were the Goal a Game line, current trio is Goons, All Goons.
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by MKwizardAD@aol.com on Mar 1, 2012 3:57 PM EST reply actions
*once in regulation in Feb.
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by MKwizardAD@aol.com on Mar 1, 2012 3:57 PM EST reply actions
First I thought you were just in denial about MZA..
Now its clear you are a troll. At least it makes sense, because MZA is a turd about to be flushed back to the SEL after the season.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Mar 1, 2012 4:08 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Wow, keeping it classy…..
Don’t worry you’ll eat enough crow when he cracks an NHL lineup next season, and produces.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 4:16 PM EST up reply actions
Did he sleep with your girl or something?
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 4:40 PM EST up reply actions
Fan love affairs for MZA and Avery are disturbing.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Mar 1, 2012 5:18 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
Baseless hate for a player is equally disturbing…
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 5:20 PM EST up reply actions
Based on your name, Gabby is also out of favor with you?
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by MKwizardAD@aol.com on Mar 1, 2012 5:22 PM EST up reply actions
GABBI NO STRONG ENUFF ON DA PUK. TRAID ALL PLAYERZZ FOR CHARA AND DA TALL GUY FROM SABREZ.
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 5:28 PM EST up reply actions
I LIKEZ DA NEW DUDE, ZCOTT!
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by MKwizardAD@aol.com on Mar 1, 2012 5:34 PM EST up reply actions
Gabby has rebounded this year, but the name remains.
I don’t hate MZA, but if you don’t watch him play for CT how are you saying he’s good enough to be up here. He is the same player he was last year, talented offensive guy who needs 67% offensive zone starts to generate offense. This team has better two way options to give those starts to.
If you watch him play and see how the NYR play its really easy to see why he has spent the whole year living in a Holiday Inn outside Hartford.
by Gabby the Gutless Sniper on Mar 1, 2012 5:33 PM EST via mobile up reply actions
You don’t play handball in Florida by any chance, do you?
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by MKwizardAD@aol.com on Mar 1, 2012 5:37 PM EST up reply actions
He is the same player he was last year, talented offensive guy who needs 67% offensive zone starts to generate offense
Please tell me why he isn’t the best option we have right now for bolstering our PP then. And while your at it, tell me why Rupper and Scott are better TWO WAY options/
by I.LikeMittens on Mar 1, 2012 6:40 PM EST up reply actions
ugh
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Smith, Karlsson, Stamkos = Feb. 3 stars
No disrespect to those fine players but has Hank had at least 1 star (weekly or monthly) in the NHL this year? Seems grossly unfair, especially since his name is not only mentioned with a possible Vezina but a Hart also.
Who votes for NHL stars?
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by MKwizardAD@aol.com on Mar 1, 2012 5:04 PM EST reply actions
IDK
smith won all 11 starts and went 1.42. karlsson had 18 points in an 8 game stretch (besting malkin) and stamkos had 11 goals and 22 points. those are some numbers.
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Sather
Is it because Sather has a soft spot for these guys? Boogaard, Brashear, now Scott. I mean he signed Brashear not 5 months after he disable Betts in the playoffs. The Rangers lead the NHL in fights, they seem to be taking care of business when they have to.
Is it possible that they don’t want Prust fighting anymore? The last few he hasn’t seem too enthused about it.
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